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Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...show/869687.cms

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NEW DELHI: India's first-ever military outpost on foreign soil, located at Farkhor, about 10 km outside Tajikistan's capital Dushanbe, is ready to become operational by this year-end, without any fanfare.

Reliable sources in the government say the Indian Air Force (IAF) is pressing for an early decision on a suitable aircraft to be stationed at this military base. Operational requirements stipulate at least two squadrons to be stationed there.

Logically, experts say, IAF could opt for MiG-29s that are already in its inventory and can be flown in and out of the region.

Although Indian officials are not willing to discuss the importance of the Farkhor military base, foreign analysts have noted that the acquisition of the military base in Tajikistan would certainly give the Indian armed forces a longer strategic reach.

Defence sources describe it as a "modern" military base where 95 per cent of the infrastructure is in place. The runway, the blast pans and the control tower are ready.

The Army is also into this exercise, having operated a military hospital there, basically to nurse the Northern Alliance soldiers who fought the Taliban regime in neighbouring Afghanistan between 1997 and 2001.

It was to this hospital that Ahmed Shah Massoud, the last of the anti-Taliban resistance leader, was brought dead after Al-Qaida's emissaries, posing as TV journalists, killed him in an explosion three years ago.

The base is the outcome of considerable behind-the-scene work by the MEA, clinched after the US, which marked a big military presence in Central Asia in the wake of 9/11, preferred not to establish a base.

Work by then defence minister George Fernandes led to a bilateral agreement being signed in 2002 during then PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee's visit to Tajikistan.

Even before 9/11, Tajik President Emamoli Rakhmanov has been visiting India. The two countries share common security threat perceptions.

Although Russia's 82nd Motorised Division guards the Tajik border with Afghanistan, the bilateral agreement stipulates the presence of both Indian Army and IAF personnel who will also assist in warding off any threat to Tajikistan.



What of it ?

Some analysts say that this is part of a larger Indian initiative to encircle Pakistan , and isolate it in case of war . This will also extend Indian influence to a much larger extent into the Middle East .

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Maybe India also wants to limit China's influence in central Asia?

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Well , we want to limit everyone's influence everywhere , just that China is the most urgent .

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I think Pakistan is the obvious target- India is better off trying to make nice with China and lessen Chinese support for Pakistan.

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This will be the first of many.

Indian power will grow as it's economic strength improves - when you adjust for the discrepancies in the statistics India's economy is probably growing as fast as china's (6% a year), it's share of US GDP is already 29% putting it close to Japan's 34%.
By 2030 India will likely be in the same economic position, vis-a-vis the USA, as China is today (i.e. with 60% of the US's GDP, although by then China's economy is likely to be the same size as America's)

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Europeans and Americans have got about 20 years left to shape the direction of world politics. After that, we'll have to share power and influence with others.

End of an era

Can't remember where I read that, but its an interesting thought

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Europeans affect world politics?

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They annoy Americans.

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I hope India is the next superpower. Curry beats McDonalds anyday.

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Yes, but Hollywood trumps Bollywood.

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Europeans and Americans have got about 20 years left to shape the direction of world politics. After that, we'll have to share power and influence with others.

End of an era

Can't remember where I read that, but its an interesting thought

I expect one if not several ( civil )wars to happen in that region. They haven't caught us yet.

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Yes, but Hollywood trumps Bollywood.


Only just though..

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Give us a bit of time . . . .

The latest crop of movies is better than the last , though . Just you wait .





















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They annoy Americans.


And soon it will be you Americans who are annoying to the coming world's superpowers: China and India

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It's not "annoying" when you still have the ability to turn their entire country into a parking lot.

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But you'd have to use a ferry or a ship to send the cars over that side. That's annoying.

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To us

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Indian movies will improve when they over come their censors and start putting more sex in them.

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I expect one if not several ( civil )wars to happen in that region. They haven't caught us yet.


In Europe and America?

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We've had enough thank you wery much.
I meant in India, China, etc.

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Nah - the Union of India has too stable a democratic structure ever to fall in the forseeable future .

China - they are too steady for this to happen .




I predict that a civil war is more likely in America (just imagine - a result of the election similar to the previous one , and civil war breaks out over the Presidency ) .


On a more serious note , I'd recommend people read the book Being Indian if they want an insight into why India is unshakeably stable as it is . The Great Indian Midlle Class ( by the same author ) is also recommended .

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I predict that a civil war is more likely in America (just imagine - a result of the election similar to the previous one , and civil war breaks out over the Presidency )


Dammit, you jinxed it now!!

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Does anyone know how India are getting on with their application (?) to get a UN security council seat?

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It's important to have many Indian military bases to fight off evil bollywood terrorism:

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This will be the first of many.

Indian power will grow as it's economic strength improves - when you adjust for the discrepancies in the statistics India's economy is probably growing as fast as china's (6% a year), it's share of US GDP is already 29% putting it close to Japan's 34%.
By 2030 India will likely be in the same economic position, vis-a-vis the USA, as China is today (i.e. with 60% of the US's GDP, although by then China's economy is likely to be the same size as America's)


Economic strength??

But isn't the poverty level in India deplorable?

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Poor people don't matter.

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The female literacy rate in India is terrible, in particular.

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Women don't matter either.

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General Ludd don't matter either.

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I hope India is the next superpower. Curry beats McDonalds anyday.


No way. Big Mac sauce is probably the tastiest flavor on earth, at least for burgers. Better that than a curry burger at any rate.

Oh, and Bollywood is awesome.

 
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