26-04-2005 21:51									#211
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Got this from Sparta:

quote: Greetings, Lords of the Gaian Union: With Lt Colonel Kassiopeia embarking for a few Planet years on project RL, I have been designated by the Junta to handle all the Spartan Federation's external affairs. The first order of business is agreeing to a truce. Although our 2 factions have somewhat of a history of cool relations, our recent "spat" was intended to be short lived in any event, as we needed to clear a passage for our fleet (and also somewhat as retribution for your pacting with our enemies, the Corporation) And in this context, rest assured that out units healing at the monolith at co-ordinates 61:57 have no ill designs against your base - they are indeed healing after being severly tested in our capture of the Hive's Huddling of the People base. They will board the transport waiting offshore after refreshing themselves and gaining their morale uplifts. We have high hopes for this Planetary Peace Conference, as we believe that a prolongued period of peace and prosperity will better enable us to cope with the irascible Chairman and his Hive minions. We see that you - like us - have been prudent in signing a truce, but our agents report that he is again in vendetta with the Corporation. It seems our friend needs a target to direct those forces towards. For our part - given that the Federation is geographically removed from the Gaian Union - we see little gain by our factions' continuing in a state of vendetta. Indeed, with the removeal of sanctions next year, it is in all our interests for harmonious relations to be restored, and the Junta is interested in the Gaian Union position on a possible Treaty of Friendship between our factions. Whether this could lead to a re-opening of our embassies, and eventual mutual technology trading, only time will tell. Regards, Colonel Googlie

	26-04-2005 22:31									#212
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Good cop/bad cop? Nevertheless, we cannot go on the offensive against the Spartans at this point.

	19-05-2005 06:55									#213
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	19-05-2005 06:57									#214
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I just received this email:

Based on the Peace Conference resolutions, we are offering a Truce this turn

And, also, sailors on the Disco Volante, rounding your south coast, waved to your children playing in the fungus southeast of Lily of the Valley.

We have no ill intent, and will vacate your coast immediately (however we are anchored for the night in the bay to the southeast, exchanging pleasantries with the crew of the Angels probe foil nearby)

Screenie attached

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...acoastalmap.bmp

	19-05-2005 07:04									#215
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I haven't heard anything about a Peace Conference but then I'm not paying close attention.

One thing to keep in mind....we now have an IoD in the vicinity!!!


EDIT: OK, I just read the Peace Conference thread...It seems we have a truce. This stinks. Sparta got off easy vs the rest of the factions!!!

Last edited by Net Warrior on 19-05-2005 at 08:14

	19-05-2005 08:17									#216
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OK, I just received this private message from Sparta:

Message
Googlie
Emperor



Registered: Apr 1999
Posts: 8196
ACDG-3 Diplomacy
Dear Gaian Lords :

We at Sparta Command are getting concerned that the Gaian Union is falling behind in the technology race, and risks becoming irrelevant on Chiron.

We would like to remedy that, and offer you the opportunity to buy/trade from us the technology Planetary Economics, and with it the rights to build the Ascetic Virtues SP (This will increae your POLICE rating to a par with the other factions, and allow you substantial growth in the next few decades)

(If these terms are acceptable, then the federation undertakes not to build the Ascetic Virtues ourselves)

And our terms are reasonable for such a unique opportunity:

Treaty

250 credits (half up front and the balance which can be paid in up to 5 annual instalments)

and the undertaking that you will not onward trade that technology to any 3rd party

the undertaking that you will not build the Cyborg Factory

As well, we would require formal acceptance of our right to broker any deals and monitor any contacts between our Protectorate, the University, and the gaian union
Is the Gaian Union interested?

Colonel Googlie on behalf of the Junta

	20-05-2005 05:43									#217
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Yech! That sounds like an awful high price for ONE tech to me. Without the turn at my fingertips, what's the biggest industrial load at any one base? What do we have in means of crawlers and such if we did want to try and get Aesthetic?

	20-05-2005 12:26									#218
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we don't need AV

+1 police gives us nothing, only nerve staple ability

+2 poplim will not give us anything for years now.

So my vote is nay.

	20-05-2005 15:19									#219
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I agree, AV is worth very little to us. OTOH, I guess we are already committed to a truce with Sparta. I'll play the turn, truce but no AV deal, agreed?

	20-05-2005 15:29									#220
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yep

	18-06-2005 17:11									#221
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Spartans offer Doc: Init for Neural Grafting. It's a bad deal as far as I'm concerned.

	18-06-2005 19:39									#222
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agreed, nothing for the Spartan!

	30-07-2005 07:32									#223
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Note the Spartan description on the main ACDG forum (Sisterhood of Chiron)

	30-07-2005 08:10									#224
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That's a great post. It's a pity that our Gaian role playing never got off the ground. I wonder how the Angels got a couple of drop probe teams in range to make the drop. I wonder whether the Angels have infiltrated us yes or not. I think we need to continue to buld up our probe home guard. Regarding Sparta, I don't see any way we can get any advantage over them due to this incident. I don't see how we are going to be anything but an also ran faction for the short to mid term anyway. I guess we can hope that other factions will go to war with eachother while we paly catchup.

	30-07-2005 08:50									#225
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I'm not sure if the Angels have anything in range of us, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did infiltrate us. In any case, they do have full information on us now, and we have nothing to fight over, so it doesn't concern me much.

The Angels dropped probe teams on ex-PK territory, which is much closer to them than the Spartan mainland.

As far as role playing, I'd be happy enough if I didn't hear crickets in the forum.

We might have more options once our pop boom goes off. With the Longevity Vaccine (which we'd better defend), we'll have extremely powerful drone control. We could make a run for it yet.

	08-08-2005 04:30									#226
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Spotted the following units a few tiles off our eastern coast, barely in sensor range:
50% damaged 6-1-10 needlejet - not clear why it's damaged
1-2t-6 cruiser
0-1-5 transport cruiser
0-1-3 transport foil

The units appear to be heading around fungus to participate in capturing PK territory, with the jet over them to protect them (possibly from us).

	08-08-2005 07:46									#227
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I presume these are Spartan Units? It's too bad our airforce isn't a little bigger and doesn't include a fighter or two. I'd LOVE to give that Spartan taskforce a bloody nose Ah, dream on Net Warrior!

	13-08-2005 23:20									#228
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quote: originally posted by Googlie Gentlemen: In game we have asked what your price might be for: > trading Centauri Empathy to us (we'll get it via the PDL when Yang gets it in 4 years, but it would suit our planning to get it earlier) > Supporting our candidacy for Planetary Governor now that Lal has been ....... removed from office Google

	16-08-2005 15:36									#229
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1st - what can they offer.

2nd - nope (im not aware of the current vote count, but I'd support Yang).

	01-09-2005 00:23									#230
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Note the Spartan bluster in the C(P)PC thread regarding Angel-Uni contact. We'd better be ready for war.

	01-09-2005 21:39									#231
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quote: originally posted by Maniac Greetings Lord of Gaia, quote: 2) We haven't come to a consensus on the price of granting you universal infiltration. You realize, of course, that the governorship is often granted to the weak, rather than the strong, as evidenced by Lal. When are you planning on holding elections, anyway? We do not have any fixed date to call elections. There's little point in doing so before we have a clear picture what the result of such a vote would be. Though of course one probably can't wait indefinitely. Last time it was not a human, but Zakharov who called elections. Who knows we could be surprised again, and Yang will call elections in the hopes of getting voted in. Which is a scary thought. He could veto such motions as a global trade pact, and it would increase his military might even further. quote: 1) Perhaps instead of askng us what we'd like, you could propose which techs you'd be willing to trade. We have lots of techs available: Adaptive Doctrine Adaptive Economics Advanced Subatomic theory Applied Relativity Cyberethics Doc: Initiative Field Modulation Nonlinear Math Optical Computers Planetary Economics Progenitor Psych Superconductor Superstring Theory Advanced Military Algorithms And we could pledge our and Zakharov's support for a global trade pact. We hope you will consider this proposal. On behalf of the Junta, Colonel Pedro 'Maniac' Riveira

That's a lot of techs.

	02-09-2005 12:48									#232
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Yes it is, and it's a tempting offer, but if we've signed the fusion-orbital deal with Angels all those techs except only the Pla Econ are obsolete.

Two others which we might still like are:
AMA - get ability from DA
SuperString Theory - well, I guess as Chaos is an expensive weapon we could try to live without it for time being.

BTW - Have DA got PreSentAlgos?
If so, why don't they build the HSA?

	02-09-2005 17:53									#233
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IIRC, they're currently researching PSA.

	14-09-2005 05:27									#234
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quote: originally posted by Maniac Greetings Lords of the Gaian Union, As this year we have located three Angel units in the Spartan sphere of influence, as we have observed a military build-up in Mart Pact, as they have stolen credits from the University of Planet, on top of dropping a few probes on our territory a couple years back, we have decided to perform a military raid on Angel territory. We shall continue this operation until the Angel government is willing to pay back immediately the sum of credits stolen from the University Protectorate. Once again there has been an automatic declaration of war by the Gaian AI. We have no quarrel with you however, and therefore we have offered you a treaty. We hope you will accept it, so our relations need not deteriorate due to the Angel refusal to behave. On behalf of the Junta, Colonel Pedro 'Maniac' Riveira

	14-09-2005 11:18									#235
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Huh, are this beginning?