24-11-2004 19:30									#122
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This is the longest bloody setup thread I've ever seen

	24-11-2004 20:07									#123
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might take longer than the game itself...

	25-11-2004 01:16									#124
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Wow I didn't even know we were still doing this till Beta sent me a PM a few days ago.

Its seems like much has been decided.

I would vote for as free as possible communications between the team members. This is after all a TEAM game.

Where does Sir Ralph stand with the map has anyone talked to him?

	25-11-2004 01:17									#125
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And its not about playing the game.

The fun is in the trash talk

Sorry I have missed a bunch of it

	25-11-2004 01:25									#126
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 And its not about playing the game. The fun is in the trash talk Sorry I have missed a bunch of it

wow man you so, how they say, eloquent, all flowery

	25-11-2004 01:35									#127
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Ya Ill be plantin' flowers on your grave

muhahahahahahahahahahaha



*con wonders why he is the celts?*

	25-11-2004 01:42									#128
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Hey one last +1

We need to set up the turn order so that all the North Americanos play, then all the Aussie/Kiwis.

Or else this game is gonna take FOREVER.

That would also be conducuve to cooperative playing. ie playing the turn while discussing it via mIRC or AIM chat room or whatever.

It just opens some more possibilities for a team game.

	25-11-2004 01:47									#129
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ahhh thought young Beta had all the turn order sorted so the save just flowed around the globe quickly and in a good and timely manner

good points though

	25-11-2004 01:49									#130
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Ya Ill be plantin' flowers on your grave muhahahahahahahahahahaha *con wonders why he is the celts?*

ya the celts, only cause mum said we had to play with the asian lids from down the street

	25-11-2004 04:42									#131
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Ah, right

Ill do them proud for you

	25-11-2004 04:53									#132
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows any news from SR? And did we reach a consensus over what is legitemate in the pre-game discussion in crontast to in-game? As far as I understand, we are allowed to discuss anything we want untill we start the game, after which we obey the contact rules as for iron civ... Hmm would mean we have to establish embassies. Or do they come prebuild with locked alliances? And would we be allowed to share maps after mapmaking?

I did not at any point understand that we were going to follow the strict Iron civ protocol. I had thought we were simply to refrain from any discussion of things requiring knowledge of this specific game until we had contact, then anything goes (intra-team).

	25-11-2004 06:21									#133
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No Iron Civ contact rules

This is a fun PBEM not a tourney

	25-11-2004 06:46									#134
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We agree on something con?

When exactly did hell freeze over ...

(Oh yeah ... a month or so ago, that whole boston thing )

	25-11-2004 07:28									#135
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It must be some sort of a holiday thing.

Im sure it wont last

	25-11-2004 08:07									#136
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Yeh... you'll probably wander across Viking territory with a Gallic Swordsman and I'll have to ward you off with a stick ...

err, oh wait, we're allies...

	25-11-2004 08:29									#137
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ya this allies thing will be weird for us, you wont have much to b1tch at me about

	25-11-2004 09:02									#138
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Hey one last +1 We need to set up the turn order so that all the North Americanos play, then all the Aussie/Kiwis. Or else this game is gonna take FOREVER.

Yup - that was the original thinking. With a good set-up - we can get in a turn a day.

Actually con - with your absence lately - I was waiting to hear if you were still in. Just to make sure before we started. Will now send the info to SR. He awaits patiently. Almost as patiently as all of you.

As to contact rules - the standard rule is that you cannot discuss strategy - or city planning - or anything out of game - until you meet in game. That is not just an iron civer rule - it just makes sense. At least to me. That being said - the aussies et al have already discussed starting techs - so that is fair game. It was probably pretty obvious anyway.

	25-11-2004 09:25									#139
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 ya this allies thing will be weird for us, you wont have much to b1tch at me about

Hey, at least I'll have Aqualung ... you should see our 2x4 game

	25-11-2004 09:49									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Beta As to contact rules - the standard rule is that you cannot discuss strategy - or city planning - or anything out of game - until you meet in game. That is not just an iron civer rule - it just makes sense. At least to me. That being said - the aussies et al have already discussed starting techs - so that is fair game. It was probably pretty obvious anyway.

So when are we going to get together on mIRC so we can discuss anything but strategy

	25-11-2004 11:36									#141
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Just wait until we've met in-game... then we can have all-night irc sessions

And make sure Sir Ralph knows to put us close enough together so we meet reasonably early, eh? Don't want it to hit 1000 BC and not have met everyone ...

	25-11-2004 12:42									#142
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Hey, at least I'll have Aqualung ... you should see our 2x4 game

Ah, so you're planning to be as unco-operative and obnoxious in this game as you are in 2x4?

Wicked!

	25-11-2004 13:02									#143
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Nah, I just intend to dig a moat around my nation and fill it with Crocs... the more to trap you Aussies and your Croc Hunters with ...

	25-11-2004 16:03									#144
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The diplomatic skills of myself, the energy and enthusiasm of Paddy, the hard work of Aqua and the extremely important glimpse into the mind of the North hemispherite from McM (he's from a former Imperial nation too!).... you guys are DOOMED.

I'm gonna sing the Doom Song now!

Doom doom doom doom doom, doom doom doom!

Doom, doomy doomy doomy! Doom! Doomy doomy doomy........



Discuss whatever, except what we are doing with our own civ until contact is made. I would think we should be allowed to send screenies to each other after meeting too, as it's nothing we can't get from verbal descriptions to each other anyway.

	25-11-2004 16:39									#145
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 Ah, so you're planning to be as unco-operative and obnoxious in this game as you are in 2x4? Wicked!

Im going to have to check out that thread, he is quite the pain in the arse, driving me nuts in ICAA, XXE Rome, and god only knows how many more PBEM's.

Whats the story on McMeadows?

A immigrant to OZ? Actually born and bred elsewhere? The States or the Peoples Republic of Canada?

	25-11-2004 18:15									#146
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Maybe 1 day an immigrant, for now just a mere wannabe Ozzie from the Netherlands. I'm one of those "Vander" guys (allthough it's spelled as "van der"). Lived in Brisbane for half a year during a traineeship in 1998 Travelled around Australia in 1998 after the traineeship (East coast and centre) and 2002 (West coast).

So I know about vegimite, Tim Tam's, XXXX, rugby union, cricket, surfing, swimming, "slip, slap, slop", box jelly fish (no visual), dugongs, kakkatoes, roo's, wallaby's, wombats (no visual), koala's, platypus, echidna's (no visual), thorny devils(no visual), Quiksilver, Ripcurl, Billabong, 12 apostels, Uluru, Purnululu, "Beautifull one day, perfect the next", "the nature state", "the garden state", Waltzing Mathilda, INXS, Midnight Oil, Icehouse, Crowded house (50% NZ, 50% AU as I was told)and a few more Ozzie things...

I've never been to the US and am not very keen on going there anyway. Allthough I'd like to see a bit of the country, I have something against the average American. They're so full of themselves. Let's get on with the trash talking..!

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	25-11-2004 18:22									#147
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Well whats this nonsense about you being from an "imperialist country"?

We Americans are so full of ourselves because we CAN BE!

We being the most powerful and by far the most important and relevant country in the world.

	25-11-2004 18:48									#148
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The Dutch founded New Amsterdam, now known as New York, where references to our nation are still found: like Harlem (Haarlem) and Brooklyn (Breukelen). South Africa is a former Dutch colony and their language still has Dutch influences. The saddest word in history unfortunately also is Dutch (apartheid). Indonesia, Suriname have been part of the Monarchy up untill the last century. Some islands in the Caribean still are. Australia was first sighted by a Dutchman. Imperialistic enough?

A true American speaking up. Most powerfull, relevant and important? The biggest threat to world peace I'd say. What right does a nation have to decide what's best for another nation? Not 1 time but all the time the American opinion is forced upon anyone else. A true democracy might be a just form of government, but America has basically a 2 party government where the run for presidency each 4 years is a money eating soap. How on earth can you ellect a stupid like Bush twice? Because propaganda works on the even more stupid average Joe? Domestic problems are abundant but taxes are spend on propoganda and weapons and speach spilled on pointing an Uncle Sam finger on the rest of the world....

This situation WILL get out off hand. This WILL be a clash of the continents... Bring on the game!!!!!

	25-11-2004 20:07									#149
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he he

I love it when I go fishing and catch a big one

Yes historically I agree the Dutch where an Imperialist power but no longer.

America is of course the only true Imperialist power in the world

	25-11-2004 20:21									#150
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Can't argue with that
India will become the next world power and fear China as well..!!