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quote: To be honest this town has taken such a slide lately, I've been toying with the idea of carrying some kind of non-firearmlike weapon, like a knife or a baton of some description... I guess today has rekindled that idea. Anyone know what's legal in the UK, and what's effective?
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Steel toed boots perhaps?
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Sorekara no Nanimo
Jan 1970 time: 06:20
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Good plan! . But like I said they shouldn't really be alive anyway, so might as well cleanse the gene pool while you're defending yourself  |
So if you had had a sword now, you'd be spending the rest of your life in prison instead of whining about your bloody nose on an Internet forum, not going to the cops and not telling the truth to your family. So on the one hand, you find it so horrible that you think the guys who attacked you deserve to die, yet on the other hand, you don't think it's worth going to the cops for, or telling your family, not to mention you're apparently not that badly hurt anyway or you wouldn't be posting here... Way to go, Whaleboy!
It sucks badly to be beaten up and I wish you all the best, but get your act together! (or did they kick you in the head one too many times)
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David Floyd
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Jan 1970 time: 05:20
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quote: So if you had had a sword now, you'd be spending the rest of your life in prison |
Yeah, but he woulda gone medieval on their asses!
PWNED!!!11
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CerberusIV
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Whaleboy. A few thoughts.
Don't carry something you aren't prepared to use.
The police will get upset if you have even pepper spray or CS gas. Carrying anything which can be classed as a weapon in the UK throws "self-defence" out of the window as an excuse. Should you be found with such an item you will almost certainly be prosecuted (maybe not someone who is female or elderly but someone of your age and build will end up in court).
Your choice is basically to carry something, use it, walk away and hope nobody recognises you later or not to fight and rely on the police. However the likelihood that, even if caught, the scum will only get a joke sentence of a couple of months inside, rather than 50 strokes of the birch doesn't really give much confidence in the judicial system.
I own and practice with a set of ninja swords and have tried various martial arts weapons over the years, nunchakus, tonfa, batons and various knives. Swords, even a shortsword are far from easy to conceal and use without a lot of practice. Same goes for most baton type weapons which have the same problem of sheer bulk. Large knives are out for that reason too.
If you can find one (they used to be sold) one of those telescopic batons might work. There are various companies who sell knives and other items mail order in the UK.
If you feel you must carry something then you will have to practice with it regularly and be prepared to use it. Also, if you are set on fighting back Queensberry rules don't apply. Punching in the face isn't adequate. Breaking an arm or a knee will give the thug something to think about rather than attacking you.
Your choice. Stay safe and I hope you never have to face such a situation again.
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003 time: 05:20
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Hey all, I'm doing better today... nose is still a bit sore obviously, eye's ok, ribs are better and I have an excuse not to work on my abs for a day or two . Scotty, thanks dude my best wishes to Lauren and yourself .
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WTF? Carrying pepper spray to defend yourself throws self-defense out the window in the UK? That's utterly absurd!
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Yeh that is completely messed up. I have decided that this town is just too dangerous. I've been talking to an old friend from college and things have been taking a slide in his area too, so really it is quite stupid for someone to go out in Northampton these days without some kind of protection... makes you realise how intimidating this town is.
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If you feel you must carry something then you will have to practice with it regularly and be prepared to use it. Also, if you are set on fighting back Queensberry rules don't apply. Punching in the face isn't adequate. Breaking an arm or a knee will give the thug something to think about rather than attacking you.
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Very true. It seems that the best kind of weapon that would double up as a useful item so you can still claim defense in court would be something like a screwdriver or a pen of some description... but the very idea of a defensive weapon is more of a deterrent. Larger items that better fit that role are out of the question and if given the choice between using a small knife or my hands, I'd stick with my hands (more control, and knives are very easy to defend against).
Seems my best best is to learn to throw better punches, take up Aikedo again and when I fix my knee (very old injury) possibly take up a more offensive martial art.... it seems with the law as it is, carrying the kind of weapons that would work for defense just wouldn't work. I must admit, CS and Pepper spray are tempting, but the stupid stupid law... That said, the objective is to get away uninjured, these thugs are hardly likely to bring charges against someone they attacked.
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