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DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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I don't think you need to use actual arguments to prove it's crap.

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Well not being able to post on the game forums, has frustrated me because there's so many people defending the decision and saying it is because of German laws.

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I played during the entire WoW Open Beta. Aside from NWN persistent worlds, that was my first MMORPG experience.

I'd have to say that I liked it. The RP and community elements were not as robust as they should have been, but Blizzard has been assuring everyone actually interested in RP that they will actually enforce the RP server rules after release. During the open beta, the "RP" was a label only; after release it should mean that RP rules concerning character names and certain aspects of behavior are obeyed or you get booted from the server.

As for PvP, I was playing on an RP server with PvE, but the last 48 hours of the open beta was a nearly continuous world war between people voluntarily flagging themselves as PvP. I fought in battles that were literally 300 on one side and over 200 on the other at one point. We even fought an entire 12-14 hour war with hundreds of participants across much of Ashenvale Forest, the Barrens, and Durotar on Wednesday evening (the alliance won). By the end of the war, my Level 17 Priest was hanging out in the Horde newbie training area, "The Valley of Trials", and chatting with a few other alliance types. It was fun.

I also eventually developed a big group of "friends" for my "friends list" in the game and got contact info for a lot of them for after release.

I'd say I'm pretty pleased with my experience thusfar and hope that the RP and PvP elements both see further development with the actual post-release community. The game could be A LOT of fun if it's anything like what I experienced during the last few days of the open beta with lots of big parties of people who RP'd together and enormous PvP wars.

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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  Old Post 21-11-2004 04:49
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If you get the game, keep me updated on how the RP servers fair, Arnelos.


Perhaps a good enough (and pro-active enough) community can make me change me mind about the game...

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What I'm worried about is, since supposedly leveling up is easy, if you create a new character, or buy the game late, everyone will be so much higher than you in levels, you'll be forced to play by yourself, at least for quests, raids etc.

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There's always people joining the game or starting new characters.


It's true, however, that it may be somehwat harder to find low-level raids or epic quest groups once the game has been around for a while, because everyone is just quickly power-leveling (sometimes with help from their guild or friends) to quickly catch up and join everyone else at the high-level stage. So, generally speaking, there's usually a lot of low-level characters regardless of how long the game has been out, but the people who are "rerolling" are often less social or are not interested in 'exploring' the game with someone else - they just want get through with the grind and get back to being high-level.

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The one thing that makes MMORPG nice though, is that they can be updated constantly. So if leveling becomes quite unbalanced, it could always be changed.

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And you get the added bonus of watching the kiddies whine that their favourite powerlevelling tactic has gone.

"Waaaah, smoke grenade was *supposed* to debuff mob accuracy to 5% not 50%, and stack so that multiple grenades reduced accuracy to 0%........it's all we have, now I have a gimped level 30 character..........WAAAAH"

Paraphrased, but not entirely made up.

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And you get the added bonus of watching the kiddies whine that their favourite powerlevelling tactic has gone.

"Waaaah, smoke grenade was *supposed* to debuff mob accuracy to 5% not 50%, and stack so that multiple grenades reduced accuracy to 0%........it's all we have, now I have a gimped level 30 character..........WAAAAH"

Paraphrased, but not entirely made up.


Yeah, that's half the reason I always play underpowered or "gimped" characters. Not only because I like to be different, but when a ballance patch comes along everyone gets weakened while I get all sorts of neat new abilities and stuff.

Another thing I notice, is that after such a patch you'll tend see a rush of new characters - all conforming to what's considered to be the new "best".

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What's everyone going to be when the game comes out?

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I thought I'd be a green gnome specialising in envy powers, with a boost to general pissedoffness.

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I thought I'd be a green gnome specialising in envy powers, with a boost to general pissedoffness.






I can't help but feel that you're mocking me.

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Actually any similarity to your char is coincidental. I'm just mad I can't play.

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My problem with MMORPGs is that they aren't really fun in the beginning. Grind grind grind, that's all it seems to be.

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Actually any similarity to your char is coincidental. I'm just mad I can't play.


It wasn't my game character that I thought you where refering to, but myself.

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Are you green?

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Shhh Spikie. He's kinda sensative about his... condition.

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WoW comes out tommorrow.

Anybody wanna give me a computer that can run it

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It's not very resource intensive at all. Something like a 1.2MHz, geForce4 and 256mb Ram will run it pretty well. Compare that to EQ2 where a top of the range Alienware computer will not manage the high end gfx settings.

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If I recall correct, EQ2 says 512 MB/1 GHz minimum. And it's right here, the game will load on a PC with these specification. It doesn't say anything about fun, however.

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Obligatory ontopic comment - Ive never played an MMORPG, not willing to commit the time and money.


Now, congrats to Osweld on his Emperor status. (and Reismark, too, if hes reading this)

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Shhh Spikie. He's kinda sensative about his... condition.


Sorry, don't want to be greenist.

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It's not very resource intensive at all. Something like a 1.2MHz, geForce4 and 256mb Ram will run it pretty well. Compare that to EQ2 where a top of the range Alienware computer will not manage the high end gfx settings.


Well I have about 500mhz, 16mb video card (Voodoo3), I have over 300 mb ram though .

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Are you green?


I always vote for the green party, although I'm not technically a member.

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It's not very resource intensive at all. Something like a 1.2MHz, geForce4 and 256mb Ram will run it pretty well. Compare that to EQ2 where a top of the range Alienware computer will not manage the high end gfx settings.


Well I have about 500mhz, 16mb video card (Voodoo3), I have over 300 mb ram though .




Can that run any games at all?

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It's not very resource intensive at all. Something like a 1.2MHz, geForce4 and 256mb Ram will run it pretty well. Compare that to EQ2 where a top of the range Alienware computer will not manage the high end gfx settings.



Really? What are the recommend requirements for EQ2?

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Well it can run Civ3, Warcraft3, Diablo2, starcraft, ctp, JK: DF2 and MOTS, JK2:JO, pirates, colonization, B&W ect. ect...

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Wow. It must run pretty slow on Warcraft III, though?

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Nope, it runs smooth, and even with my 56k connection I hardly lag

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That's funny. How does your computer run faster than mine in WIII when I have double your specs...

 
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