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Ever since the Bush re-election, I have heard more and more commentators from various regions talking about secession as a valid alternative. Will this idea ever catch on in mainstream parts of the Northeast or the West Coast?

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While it's a possibility, I think something a little more controversial than Bush II's recrowning will be necessary.

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Ever since the Bush re-election, I have heard more and more commentators from various regions talking about secession as a valid alternative. Will this idea ever catch on in mainstream parts of the Northeast or the West Coast?


All they've got to do is ask.

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Yay!! Fireworks displays!

Secession

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the Cistrict of Columbia would be the first to go. Now that would be funny.

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And by "Cistrict" I of course mean "Cistern". Or possibly "District".

Not sure.

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While it's a possibility, I think something a little more controversial than Bush II's recrowning will be necessary.


Give him a minute. I'm sure he'll think of something stupid to pull soon enough.

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YEAH AND THE LIBERALS COULD ALSO GET ALL GUNS AND GO TO MONTANA AND HOLE UP IN BUNKERS TO WAIT FOR BUSHITLER'S BLACK HELICOPTERS

no wait

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Now that he's a second term pres he'll damn the polls and do what he wants. Which is screw over everybody of course.

Not that it's different then now...

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That would require you to have followers other than internet chained computer geeks and out of work acting students living on their parents dime.

But as the last schsim showed, only conservative elitists have the balls to attempt such a thing, and only Republicans have the gumption to quell it. Leaves you liberals out in the rain

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But he beleives he's right. 'Cause Jesus told him so.

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Which is screw over everybody of course.



'cept Cheney and ChumsTM

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But as the last schsim showed, only conservative elitists have the balls to attempt such a thing, and only Republicans have the gumption to quell it. Leaves you liberals out in the rain


Well then why don't you conservative elists and Republicans start shooting each other. We won't get in the way.

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Unfortunetly we have merged, making us an unstoppable force, like you have just experianced.

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Secession is a bit much. Go for expanding states' rights and let the southerners burn in the fires of their own crosses.

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Let federal government cut taxes and services as much as it wants. Laugh as poor red states realise they've been living off charity.

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Laugh as poor red states realise they've been living off charity


I think your inner cities will burn your whole cities to the ground first.

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My inner cities?

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I suggest you take a look at median income in red and blue state, P...

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I hardly see the point when talking about the inner cities of the Blue states.

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The US should really split. The Blue states could form two new wealthy and enlightened countries. The red states could join the third world.

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I hardly see the point when talking about the inner cities of the Blue states.


And I still don't get your point.

The blue states give more to the federal government than do the red states. The fact that there are poor sections of the blue states means nothing. The rich parts more than make up for it.

Your comment was a red herring.

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The US should really split. The Blue states could form two new wealthy and enlightened countries. The red states could join the third world.


Canada would take in NE.

The West Coast could just be culturally assimilated.

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Yeah, I am sure that is how it would work.

I would like to point out which states the majority of the military power is concentrated, as well as where the majority of the people manning that power come from, and then who they voted for in the election.

Have fun accessing your offshore account from your smoking crater.

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Canada would take in NE.

The West Coast could just be culturally assimilated.


That's a good idea, more votes for the Liberals and NDP.

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And I still don't get your point.


That sounds like a personal problem.

The majority of the Blue mega cities use far more federal money than they give, minus finacial transatctions which while monitored and run in a place do not originate there. Subtract the more conservative rural areas of your Blue states and no, the liberal sections (which I suppose is the point being a secession thread) are not as weathy as you think.

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I would support Southern Secession. The rest of you can have the northeast.

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That sounds like a personal problem.

The majority of the Blue mega cities use far more federal money than they give, minus finacial transatctions which while monitored and run in a place do not originate there. Subtract the more conservative rural areas of your Blue states and no, the liberal sections (which I suppose is the point being a secession thread) are not as weathy as you think.


Now we're breaking up individual states? Pick an issue and stick with it, you silly silly man.

red herring

go look it up, sweetheart

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I didn't realize you had the secession rule bool.

#124. All citizens a state, once seceded, are required to abandon all personal convictions.

 
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