04-11-2004 05:45									#61
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I am with PLATO- let the Soputh go once and for all- then we get rid of them, and sanity reigns in the rest of the nation once again.

	04-11-2004 05:45									#62
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There was a guy at CFC that made a million of these.

None very good.

Make sure Kerry has nothing but spearmen.

	04-11-2004 06:26									#63
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO I would support Southern Secession.

Considering the fact we rule the country now, I wouldn't.

	04-11-2004 06:28									#64
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quote: Originally posted by alva Don't forget that France would happy to use it's power to come to the aid ......never mind.

Why never mind?

We would LOVE to be at the helm of a humanitarian UN operation to aid our American friends right after the civil war

	04-11-2004 06:35									#65
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TO c/p my post in the other thread ("What would an independent North look like?")

It would be similar to today's US wrt working conditions, corporate governance, and welfare. I don't see any mainstream political voice advocating more stringent policies.
There could be better efforts when it comes to education.
The Independent New England will become the beacon of NAFTA, and will push the most for the FTAA.


Militarily, there would be a tight alliance with the rest of the US. The American domination on the world scene serves the interests of the whole US, and Independent New England will certainly not let this domination slide. A collective decision-making-process in foreign policies will be seen as a necessity, although said decisions will be very difficult to come by.

The State would be seriously more secular, and most religious issues that currently taint the American debate, won't exist there.

A new Political system would be in place. The Constitution would remain mostly intact, but some technicalities will be changed (like the electoral college). Also, the 2nd amendment will undergo a serious change in interpretation.

	04-11-2004 06:54									#66
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Considering the fact we rule the country now, I wouldn't.

Yankee LOVER! People like you need to be kicked out of the south, and more true Southeners like PLATO put in- enough in fact to have the south decide to leave.

	04-11-2004 06:57									#67
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How dare you address you betters in such an impudent fashion!

	04-11-2004 07:21									#68
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He's still smarting from the double tragedy (Yankees and Kerry)

	04-11-2004 07:28									#69
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Ever since the Bush re-election, I have heard more and more commentators from various regions talking about secession as a valid alternative. Will this idea ever catch on in mainstream parts of the Northeast or the West Coast?

Those commentators are talking out of their fantastical asses.

	04-11-2004 10:22									#70
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I believe this split could be made amicably.

Attachment: usasplit_map.jpg
This has been downloaded 143 time(s).

	04-11-2004 10:27									#71
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It's not a reasonable idea

However, it's an idea that has actually made it into people's heads

There is a storm brewing, with alot of people very angry at the way things are going. Revolution? Probably not. But a major social change could take place in our lifetime.

	04-11-2004 10:27									#72
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs I believe this split could be made amicably.

	04-11-2004 11:11									#73
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs I believe this split could be made amicably.

Don't forget to allow Ben and his fellow plains state Canadians join Jesusland too. They are all like North Dakota but colder.

	04-11-2004 11:12									#74
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Good point

	04-11-2004 11:15									#75
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I can't take credit for the map, but I certainly endorse it.

	04-11-2004 21:54									#76
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In other words, "I'm DRoseDARs and I approve this message."

	04-11-2004 22:58									#77
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Can someone post me a nice map of which states supported who?

	04-11-2004 23:00									#78
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Earlier in this thread there is one (sorta).

Kerry:

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
Massachussetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
New York
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Washington D.C.
Delaware
Illinois
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nevada
Washington
Oregon
California
Hawaii

The rest voted for monkeyboy. Well, actually I think Iowa is still technically undecided.

-Arrian

	04-11-2004 23:02									#79
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Yes, thanks. I was just about to edit my post and say I've seen it already.

	04-11-2004 23:02									#80
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Anyone feel like digging up a by-county map for 2004?

	04-11-2004 23:04									#81
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Isn't that what Dissident is using as an avatar?

-Arrian

	04-11-2004 23:05									#82
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Anyone feel like digging up a by-county map for 2004?

That'd be very interesting

I love maps

	04-11-2004 23:22									#83
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Anyone feel like digging up a by-county map for 2004?

Someone posted a link to one around here somewhere. Try the Official Election Thread IV. Here's the pic:

	04-11-2004 23:28									#84
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Is this grey stain in Illinois Nader or something?

	04-11-2004 23:29									#85
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Maybe it's a tie.

-Arrian

	04-11-2004 23:34									#86
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My state, Iowa, could almost be considered divided east and west.

	04-11-2004 23:43									#87
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OK.
If a civil war breaks out, and USA will drown in chaos, I claim everything from Illinois to New York for Poland.
Israel can get Florida and half of New York.
France will be given Luisiana, Britain everything north to New York, etc,
but I want Maryland and Delaware as my personal Empire.
However, if someone will claim it, I;ll be happy with California too
I'm not greedy

	04-11-2004 23:54									#88
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Looking at the county map, I'd say the reds would have an easy time of picking off the scattered blues, piece by piece.

	05-11-2004 00:25									#89
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(as this is lsightly discussed in this thread)

How do the red states equate reducing government interference (small government) with receiving federal handouts from the blue states? If they were true republicans wouldn't reject any federal assistance?

	05-11-2004 00:34									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos True for the North, but it would leave 90% of the military in the hands of South and West (including 90% of the nukes). Do you really want me roaming the world without the restraints of pacifist sissies? So much for Eurocentism.

That's because the US is like Canada in that regard. Our military is primarily composed of our marginalized redneck yokels and we locate most of our military bases in useless areas that no one else wants either.