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Looking at the county map, I'd say the reds would have an easy time of picking off the scattered blues, piece by piece.

Then again, it's not mentioned that most of the red counties have maybe 5 people tops living in them, whereas the blue counties are all thriving metropolises.

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...5 people with guns, as opposed to those who wouldn't have any because they are anti-gun

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Anyone else notice how the Liberals seem to be creeping off the shores of the Mississippi like a bunch of rabid leeches?

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Anyone else notice how the Liberals seem to be creeping off the shores of the Mississippi like a bunch of rabid leeches?

Not liberals. Southern Democrats

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They're liberals, Spiff! Don't you understand? The Southern "Democrats" are actually liberal subversives. The Northern "Liberals" are actually commies!

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"Liberals" sounded better with the "leech" comparison.

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They're liberals, Spiff! Don't you understand? The Southern "Democrats" are actually liberal subversives. The Northern "Liberals" are actually commies!

Wow! It's good to hear so many people in the US want to nationalize every industry, to remove the private property of the means of production, and to apply the motto "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

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from arkdems.org

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Obviously, the results in the Presidential Race are disappointing, but Arkansas Democrats still have much of which they can and should be proud:

* All three of our Democratic incumbents in the Congressional Delegation -- U.S. Senator Blanche Lincoln, Congressman Marion Berry and Congressman Vic Snyder -- won by wide margins over their Republican challengers.
* We actually gained two seats in the Arkansas House of Representatives, giving us a 72-28 majority, and we maintained our 27-8 majority in the Arkansas Senate. No other state in the South can boast such a lopsided Democratic majority in its state Legislature.
* No Democratic incumbents were unseated in this year's legislative races. Democratic performance in legislative races was our best in at least a decade.


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Our next priority is to build upon the five of seven state constitutional offices we hold by winning back the Governor's Mansion and the office of Lieutenant Governor in 2006.

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Since I have nothing better to do with this time, I drew a crappier version of "Redistrict This".

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Looking at the county map, I'd say the reds would have an easy time of picking off the scattered blues, piece by piece


Except that the US army sucks at urban warfare.

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Instead of seceding, why not just kick Texas out of the union?

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...5 people with guns, as opposed to those who wouldn't have any because they are anti-gun


Yeah, but then there are those of us who are liberal and have guns.

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I'm a liberal and getting a gun!!

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Except that the US army sucks at urban warfare.


This will be ideological warfare Eastern Front style. It will be rubble warfare, alot less 3D

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Yeah, but then there are those of us who are liberal and have guns


Guns are so 20th century, it's all about information warfare now.

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...5 people with guns, as opposed to those who wouldn't have any because they are anti-gun


Then what are all those 'liberals' killing each other with in the cities? Harsh language?

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Instead of seceding, why not just kick Texas out of the union?


Because compared to us, you guys are wussies.

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Secession is a bit much. Go for expanding states' rights and let the southerners burn in the fires of their own crosses.


Wow I certainly didn't expect Agathon to be the pollytubbie who would most precisely match my own perspective on this.

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Via Adam Daifallah, I came across this map of Canada's election results. It's interesting, to say the least. And worrying.

Visually, it makes clear that we do have real regional divisions in Canada. The map shows that Parliament seems to be divided into regional blocs. The NDP is concentrated in Northern B.C. and Manitoba, with a few ridings in Northern Ontario and urban centres. The Conservatives took most of the West a ring of ridings around the GTA, and a strip along the New Brunswick/Nova Scotia border. The Liberals won most urban centres, anglophone Quebec, and Northern Ontario. The rest of Quebec, of course, went BQ.

No, the actual vote wasn't as regionally divided as the results. Nevertheless, it's hard to look at this map and argue convincingly that we have any truly national parties right now.


Orange = NDP
Red = Liberals
Navy = Conservatives
Sky Blue = Bloc Quebecois

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You know, if Canada would join the US, the balance of power would alter drastically and we'd finally outnumber the hillbillys. Would Canada be willing to put its national pride aside in the name of sanity?

The plans have already been drawn up to...

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/con...8-246-e.html#A1

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Ever since the Bush re-election, I have heard more and more commentators from various regions talking about secession as a valid alternative.


Who?

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Actually the new term is Progressives

THere are still liberals but the are on the fringe

Most of us Progressives are people who stand for pragmatic social change tempered by smart fiscal policy --> Clinton

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Who?


Mostly in blogs, here are a few places I have seen it discussed (albeit in a somewhat tongue in cheek way in some cases.)

http://www.counterpunch.org/grossman11042004.html
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/e...t_id=1000706557

The second link includes just a brief paragraph on the subject at the end.

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Anyone feel like digging up a by-county map for 2004?


Just go to CNN and check out the map. If they still have it up that is.. jUst click on the state,

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Those commentators are talking out of their fantastical asses.


Is Mr. Fun the only democrat with a grasp on some sort of reality?

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If these Resulats are correct,
by seperating Bush-States from Kerry-States you also separate higher from lower average IQ

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Don't forget to allow Ben and his fellow plains state Canadians join Jesusland too. They are all like North Dakota but colder.


Screw you too, Jack.

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That's a good idea, more votes for the Liberals and NDP.


Except the NDP would scare them back into the Union.

 
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