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Ah, so they're at last chance. I hope they get the *&%@ since I got killed. Usually the mob gets me.

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What joncha? If you know who it is, why don't you share your immense insight with us. At least it wasn't me who killed the poor duck.

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The password is snowy.

The number in the file is 1.

Reismark lives, duke o' york dies.


The game is not over.


Was there a possibility that the game would be over before I picked the number Lj?

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joncha does that a lot these days. I wonder if he has Linda Blair aspirations.

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No matter how hard I try, I can't get my head to go all the way around.

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No, because there are 5 left.

Duke, Paddy, BK, HH, and reismark.

If the duke'o'york is dead, that leaves Paddy, BK, HH and Reismark left.

So the Mafia can only kill one of us, leaving 3, for the final round.

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I'm really batting a thousand here.

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Maybe Snowflake did it. She seems to be acting a bit more "innocent" than normal.

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No, because there are 5 left.

Duke, Paddy, BK, HH, and reismark.

If the duke'o'york is dead, that leaves Paddy, BK, HH and Reismark left.

So the Mafia can only kill one of us, leaving 3, for the final round.


Which is as it should be. The last vote takes place at 3, usually resulting in 2-1, and if the mafia survives to the last 2 he makes a kill and wins.

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Maybe Snowflake did it. She seems to be acting a bit more "innocent" than normal.


You asking a priest to vote against a woman?

It'll have to be the other three.

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Maybe Snowflake did it. She seems to be acting a bit more "innocent" than normal.



Sigh.

Maybe this will persuade the real mafia not to kill me tonight.

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HELLO? IS THIS THING ON????

ACK!

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Chapter 11 – Broken vows


It took the strength of both Master Chief Duke and Chief Kline to get Rono the Cook out of the stew pot. No wonder. Rono used to be a body-builder and weighed more that 200 pounds.

“Who could have done it?” Chief Kline wondered.
“Only someone strong” Master Chief Duke replied.
“You are the strongest man aboard” Lt. Westergard said to Master Chief Duke.
“That doesn’t prove I killed Rono” Duke replied.
“Perhaps not”, Captain’s Aide HongHu said, “But your uniform does. It looks like it has some of Rono’s stew on it.”

Everybody looked at Duke’s uniform. There were several stains that looked like stew stains.

“This is from yesterday” Duke said.

Chief Kline touched one of the stains.
“No it isn’t. It’s fresh.” He said.

This was enough for Lt. Westergard and he sentenced duke o’ york to death.
But before the sentence was executed, Father Kenobi spoke.
“No! I cannot allow this execution to be carried out.”
“Do you know something about these killings?” Lt. Westergard asked.
“Yes Sir, indeed I do.”
“Speak then!”

Father Ben hesitated. He wanted to tell about the murderer’s confession, but his vow of secrecy prevented him. He looked at the others and said.
“Master Chief Duke hasn’t confesses his sins. He must repent or his soul is doomed.”
“I do not wish to repent as I haven’t done anything.” Chief of the Boat replied.
“That settles the issue”, Lt. Westergard said. “Chief Kline, fire Master Chief Duke out!”
“Yes Sir!”

*******

Later that day after many hours of prayer Father Ben Kenobi decided to tell Lt. Westergard everything he knew including the name of the murderer. He met him in his quarters and told him all about it.

*******

Some time later there was a gun shot coming from Lt. Westergard’s quarters. The rest of the crew quickly came to the scene. There, in his cabin, lay reismark dead, shot straight in his heart with a single bullet. The gun was found there and it was the gun that used to belong to Master Chief Duke.

HongHu and Chief Kline searched the room for clues.
HongHu found a single shell near the door to Lt. Westergard’s cabin. The cowardly murderer obviously shot immediately giving Lt. Westergard no chance. His sole projectile struck him straight in his brave heart.
Chief Kline looked down, under Lt. Westergard’s cupboard and found his personal log. There he found an entry about meeting Father Ben Kenobi with a cryptic comment there can be only one.




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Name Title Status
1. Kassiopeia Petty Officer First Class Grattam (Ryan Phillippe) Torpedoed – round 5
2. Hercules Officer of the Deck Mahoney Throat cut with a pocket knife – Mafia round 6
3. Sparrowhawk Seaman Lawson Head smashed with a tube – Mafia round 1
4. Joncha Lt. Roy Zimmer, USS Alabama Communication Officer Torpedoed – round 9
5. Tuberski T.S.O. Billy Linkletter Torpedoed – round 3
6. DarkCloud Chief of the Watch Hunsicker Torpedoed – round 4
7. Jonny Petty Officer First Class Danny Rivetti Smothered – Mafia round 9
8. Skanky Burns Seaman William Barnes Torpedoed – round 2
9. Lord Nuclear Capt. Frank Ramsey (Gene Hackman), USS Alabama Captain Torpedoed – round 8
10. Theben Lt. Cmdr. Ron Hunter (Denzel Washington), USS Alabama XO Torpedoed – round 1
11. Paddy the Scot Chief Kline Alive
12. Snowflake Capt. Ramsey Aide Alive
13. Whoha Seaman Marty Sotille Throat cut – Mafia round 5
14. Spaced Cowboy Lt. Bobby Dougherty, USS Alabama Supply Officer Torpedoed – round 6
15. DrSpike USS Alabama Doctor Slashed with a scalpel – Mafia round 4
16. Ben Kenobi USS Alabama Chaplain Alive
17. Nikolai Lt. Peter ‘Weps’ Ince (Viggo Mortensen) Torpedoed – round 7
18. duke o’ york Chief of the Boat (George Dzundza) Torpedoed – round 10
19. Pave Lt. Paul Hellerman Head smashed with a tube – Mafia round 3
20. Adagio Petty Officer Third Class Russell Vossler Slashed – Mafia round 2
21. rah Rono, Head Cook Drowned in the stew – Mafia round 10
22. FlameFlash Seaman Bennefield Strangled with a piece of wire – Mafia round 8
23. Dauphin Diving Officer Throat slit and stabbed to death – Mafia round 7
24. Reismark Lt. Darik Westergard Shot – Mafia round 11

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Votes are due by tomorrow (Friday) at midnight GMT. The final update will follow shortly afterwards.

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Only three people left! Been a while since we had that.

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BK, paddy and me. Hmmm ... And we had thought that one of BK and me would be killed. Paddy is playing really well. I almost think that it couldn't be him now. Because if it were him he wouldn't have lefted both BK and I alive ...

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The killer is so obvious. If you don't get him now, you deserve your fate.

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He is? I'm gonna read the story now. Maybe that will enlighten me.

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Well it is also possible that BK confessed to reis and later killed him?

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Analysis from the grave.

Point 1
when it gets down to three, the mafia will usually not make the first vote, because if another person votes not for them, they auto win, and if they vote the right mafia, the mafia can vote for the first voter and hope the third person guesses wrong. If they wait to vote last, it may already be decided against them, so they usually hover near the end.
If they vote first, they may tip their hand.
SO based on that, Snowflake has been around and not voted. hmmmm

Point 2.
current post count
User Posts
Ljube-ljcvetko 50
Nikolai 45
Snowflake 37
Kassiopeia 28
Ben Kenobi 25
joncha 20
Paddy the Scot 19
Tuberski 19
Theben 17
DrSpike 16
rah 16
Lord Nuclear 13
Hercules 12
Skanky Burns 11
Whoha 10
Spaced Cowboy 10
Sparrowhawk 10
DarkCloud 9
reismark 9
Adagio 8
Dauphin 7
Jonny 6
duke o' york 6
FlameFlash 2
Pave 2
Jamski 1
Smiley 1
gjramsey 1

The top poster is usually the mod.
If not caught the next highest person alive is usually the mafia. Unless they're a very experienced mafia and is aware of this stat and play below the radar. (this may sometimes be distorted if Spike is spamming)

SO I would bet snowflake.

This is not based at all on the story. So take what you will from this.

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My money is on Paddy.

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rah rah rah.

Obviously the mafia also knows about what you said, the piece about not voting first. If not, now they know.

I actually learned this with painful experience when I was truely a mafia (at MZO) when I actually voted the first. And my not voting obviously is an attempt to counter that motivation of not voting first by the mafia, if you don't count the fact that I'm still not sure who is the mafia.

If we go by the story, obviously it is Paddy. But if it was him he would have killed BK or me. If it was BK on the other hand, he wouldn't kill himself of course, and he may want to leave me alive because he knew I was pretty convinced that he was not the mafia. Also he was on when I got on and saw the story, and he hurried off without posting in this thread ...

Now paddy and BK are both experienced enough to know what you know, keep a low profile and such. If I were the mafia do you think I would be this eager to jump out everytime?

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And BK is on again, still not posting ...

On the other hand, Paddy has his online status hidden, I think, which says something if you ask me.

Come on you guys, convince me you are innocent.

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Aside from the fact that there are 2 huge frickin' clues in the last update. But since you dorks killed me 1st I think I'll let you figure it out.

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Aside from the fact that there are 2 huge frickin' clues in the last update. But since you dorks killed me 1st I think I'll let you figure it out.


I agree there are two huge clues in the last update.
I 've kept quiet but if Rah feels he can contribute to the decision, so can I.

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It's Paddy, I'm almost sure of it. I wanted to vote for him last time, but I had to vote duke to give myself a chance to live. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Paddy executed me specifically to psych Ben & Snow out.

quote:
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Anybody here watch Highlander?

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*sigh*

Read my posts here on Poly, and you'll see why I haven't seen this until now.

More pressing priorities than Mafia, HH.

Paddy

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...Sounds religious to me...

but then again to a dead person, everything would have to be religious...

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If the shell was found near the door, does it mean that the person was shooting him from back the room? If that is the case, it has to be BK. Since BK already told reis who is the mafia, so reis will not allow the real mafia to enter his room, unless he is already in the room.

Also, after the shot only Paddy and I went to the murder scene. Why didn't BK come?

Are these the two clues?

 
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