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DaShi
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The Taste of Japan
Sep 2000
time: 05:19
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Christianity has been ingrained in Western thought since it's dominance. Along with it Jewsih thought hence Judeo-Christian. Religion played both helped and restricted scientific thought. In the Middle Ages, the Church created one of the few areas where philosophy could flourish.
Despite the common stereotype of the "kill the heathen" Catholic Church, the Midieval church was quite open to new ideas. True, they were mostly restricted to relgion and God, but few philosophies before modern times aren't. Christain thought laid the foundation of the more secular thought of the Renaissance. A casual look through Dante demonstrates this. Even then the Church didn't abolish science. Galileo is famous for demonstrating the Church's aversion to new ideas, but it is a half truth. Yes, he pissed off the Church. Not because he was preaching blasphomy (the Church did accept his ideas), but because the Church didn't feel that the public was ready to know this. This paternalism may show some restriction of science by the Church, but does not paint them as the creationist Bible-thumpers to later arise out of protestantism.
The early Catholic Church was quite aware of its role in Europe and the power it held. In fact, during its height, it acted more like a political empire than an overbearing theocracy. It was the Church's eventual lack of religious convinction in its actions that gave rise to several protestant sects. Those are your Bible-thumping loonies. 
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BlackCat
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresson
Hi
I've been thinking about this thread for a while, for several reasons.
One is, that I am annoyed by thoughts that religion, especially Christianity, is bound to go extinct
Also I was annoyed by black people turning Muslim because they found Christianity "too white"
And, last but not least, because I find it ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, incredible, fascinating, what happens in several places in the world.
The one I give a link to is Africa. But also in other places, like in Korea, we could witness a triumphal march of the Christian faith.
The fact that I post this thread only now, is due to that I did not quite believe the fact.
I've seen a map of religions in Africa in 1900 and one in 2000, but the second one I did not find quite reliable, and the first one was too Christian - optimistic in some parts as well.
However, it seems to be true.
Sub-Saharean Africa is Christian now!
Enjoy.
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You are annoyed that religion is to be extinct, well, that's your opininion, i think it's fine no matter what religion.
You can't blame africans to be "anti white" since it's a proven fact that only white christians captured slaves. Noone accepts the fact that african kingdoms sold slaves to both christian and muslims. Not even the fact that the white trade of african slaves started later and ended earlier than the arab ditto has any effect.
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Proteus_MST
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
To what?
If there is no more religion, how can what they move to be called atheism? |
You could call it practised atheism
people wouldnīt know about the definition atheism (as long as they donīt encounte a religious system) but would act like atheists.
Just like many people around the world call themselves christians, but never ever read a passage of the bible, visited a church or obeyed any of the ten amendments (or a mix of these things)
and therefore de facto should rather be called practising atheists than christians.
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Proteus_MST
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I see.
Does this mean that those who do behave as Christians do but have never heard of Christianity, ought to be considered Christians? |
I would say no,
as (especially for some fundamental christian sects)
you must have knowledge about certain things tlo be called christian.
Many fundamental christians for example would probably definitely say no,
because these people would have to accept Jesus as their only Lord and savior and therefore, as they donīt know about Jesus, are considered to be bloody heathens and go to hell, no matter how strong they obeyed the ten amendments and no matter how much good things they did to the world.
My own Opinion is alike. If they naturally act according to the ten amendments and the like, but donīt believe in any gods, they rather should be consideres (practising?) Atheists than christians (as Christianity involves knowledge of Christ)
(Practised atheism on the other hand doesnīt necessary involve any special behavior, aside from the standpoint that there arenīt any gods and everything could be explained by natural causes, so atheists could aside from this behave like christians but still be practising atheists)
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15-11-2004 12:43
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