19-11-2004 00:02									#91
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we're playing with the balloon unit?

we're all going to need that installed, etc to play it then

	19-11-2004 02:03									#92
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my email addy is BCRONKITE-the sign all emails have-then put ec-dot-rr-dot-com

Now whats this about putting special units in as i dont want any modifications that will affect current/future games

am I supposed to place the map in what file folder?

Just asking, I aint too bright and kinda stupid (Please forgive me 1889 for NOT asking prior permission to post

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	19-11-2004 04:56									#93
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Ok, well I just thought the balloon unit was cool, we don't have to use it. Grandpa, just put the map in the conquests->scenarios folder.

	19-11-2004 05:04									#94
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Got it..as I will be sending the save to you Ozzy

This looks close I am sure ready

what will the name game be as i need to set me folders up for saves..thios will be game number.. 24..25 or so

Thanks

D/L the map and looking forward!!


Gramps

	19-11-2004 05:49									#95
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dawn of the third age. Or perhaps DOTA for short.

BTW, to get everyone in the proper Diplogaming spirit, please check out these threads to see how some of the greatest games got started:

History of the World 2:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=1487
History of the World 3:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=43575
History of the World 4:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=98046

Read enjoy, and then prepare to write.

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	19-11-2004 06:03									#96
	Got spare money?

not only prepared to write i am prepared to play it to da hilt

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	19-11-2004 06:11									#97
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

My email is: ljcvetko at eunet dot yu

	19-11-2004 08:58									#98
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The cheat sheet for those who haven't been paying attention:

ChrisiusMaximus (GMT) Zulu chrisbennett8 AT aol DOT com
Ljube - (GMT +1) Greece ljcvetko at eunet dot yu
Modo44 - (GMT +1) China ansaw TA poczta TOD onet TOD pl
Grandpa Troll (GMT -4) - Germany BCRONKITE-the sign all emails have-then put ec-dot-rr-dot-com
OzzyKP (GMT -5) - India OzzyKP at AOL dot com
smellymummy (GMT -8) - Egypt sm at inethighway dot com

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	19-11-2004 11:42									#99
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* Modo44 currently under:

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Removed old addy. Replaced with new one, just in case someone seeks here.
a TOD sawicki TOD private TA wp TOD pl

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	20-11-2004 17:02									#100
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Has the game started yet?

	20-11-2004 17:25									#101
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I don't think it has. I guess we're waiting for Chrisius to do the starting.

	20-11-2004 22:16									#102
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Actually, I just noticed that there are still paths you can take to get to north america from russia. So either I adjust the map to put more ocean in there, or everyone just agree not to use that.

	20-11-2004 22:50									#103
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So, unless one has safe ocean travel, he'd have to do suicide runs through there. Correct?

	20-11-2004 23:44									#104
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it means china will have easy access to the american continent from early on in the game, because there is no ocean tile seperation at the bering straight.. it should get fixed, or we allow easy crossing over there

	20-11-2004 23:50									#105
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I don't mind holding off normal travel until I have Navigation or Magnetism. And I won't be sending Curraghs into the ocean anyway. Even with 3 Ocean tiles, it would be a 1-turn suicide galley run, which is easy enough. So changing the map wouldn't do that much. Or do you want to forbid suicide galleys?

	20-11-2004 23:55									#106
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i dont want to forbid that or anything ... just look at the map, see how it is coast tiles at the eastern most tip of asia and western most tip of america? and those coast tiles connect.. so there's no suicide there at all, it's just regular sailing

	21-11-2004 00:07									#107
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Like I said, I don't mind leaving ships in the deep water for a turn, so they get a chance to sink. And you'd need to make the Ocean 3 tiles wide against Galleys and 2 tiles wide against Curraghs anyway...

	21-11-2004 00:25									#108
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unless ocean or sea tiles have movement penalties for curraghs and galleys. it can make those water tiles nearly impassable. see that way, ocean and sea tiles can cost 2 or more movement points to galleys or curraghs, and the regular movement for more modern ships

i thought thats what was implemented for the england - iceland 2 tile wide ocean.

	21-11-2004 01:30									#109
	Inflate your Upload Space

Um I have not started this game, I am actually unaware it was down to me, though I can do so if that is desired/required

Before anything though you need to finalise these ocean sea tile discussions your having, and has a decision been made about the baloon unit mentioned earlier ?

I will need the final map to set the game up so someone let me know when its ready

Alternatively Ozzy could start the game, if any problems though Im happy to do it

	21-11-2004 06:20									#110
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Ozzy, put ocean everywhere so Americas can't be reached with galleys and disable galley and curragh moves into ocean squares.

This will make navigation more important.

Remove balloon unit in spite of its coolness.

Start the game, or Chris you do.

	21-11-2004 06:21									#111
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

and thank you

	22-11-2004 08:05									#112
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Ok, I hadn't intended to start a discussion on the subject, so I'll just post an edited map. I thought instead of asking everyone to download another map, that'd it'd be easier to just go on the honor system. But no worries, here is the new map.

Galleys and Curraghs can't enter ocean squares at all, and that was the original intention of the map, I just missed the diagonal crossings at the Berring straight. So that's been fixed now in this map. Check to verify, but there should be no way to get to the new world until Navigation.

I'd be happy to start, but as I've never done a PBEM game before, either in Civ3 or Civ2, I may not be the best choice. I nominate Chris.

So again, this is the new map, please replace the old map with this one.

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	22-11-2004 08:28									#113
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im down..got it

ready to roll

	23-11-2004 04:56									#114
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Ok, waiting on Chris then.

And you all can do some introductory stories in the story thread too btw. Please also take this time to read through some of the HOTW games too. Thanks

	25-11-2004 08:57									#115
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*ahem*

y'all still there?

	25-11-2004 09:08									#116
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umm..kinda..barely..

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	25-11-2004 09:22									#117
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i am. wheres the story thread?

	25-11-2004 10:20									#118
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Story Thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=125549

	25-11-2004 10:39									#119
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Ok, I'm tired of waiting for this to get going, so I gave it a shot myself. Didn't seem too hard to set up. Heres to hoping I didn't screw anything up. It goes to Egypt next.

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	25-11-2004 11:17									#120
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everything seems good over here.

the new turn order btw:

OzzyKP (GMT -5) - India OzzyKP at AOL dot com
smellymummy (GMT -8) - Egypt sm at inethighway dot com
Modo44 - (GMT +1) China ansaw TA poczta TOD onet TOD pl
Grandpa Troll (GMT -4) - Germany BCRONKITE-the sign all emails have-then put ec-dot-rr-dot-com
ChrisiusMaximus (GMT) Zulu chrisbennett8 AT aol DOT com
Ljube - (GMT +1) Greece ljcvetko at eunet dot yu