16-11-2004 21:44									#31
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I Like the idea that Snoopy and CM are pitching here.

I agree with Snoopy that the Iron civer rules are a little restrictive for the RPG type of game. The restrictions on information that can be passed, would severely limit the amount of story telling that could happen, until much later in the game.

I am still wanting to play, altohugh I think 8 players is going to be a very long game.

	16-11-2004 21:51									#32
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Here is the list of names that have posted to this thread in order they posted.

1,ChrisiusMaximus Confirmed
2,Modo
3,smellymummy
4,snoopy369
5,Beta
6,Conmcb25 ?? not sure if hes interested or just posting bananas
7,Earthworm Confirmed
8,1889 will let us know in a few days
9,Ljube-ljcvetko
10,OzzyKP

Ill hold this open for a few days so please post to confirm but remember that the top of the list still gets priority even if they confirm late

Ill update this periodically

	16-11-2004 21:53									#33
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Earthworm you are correct this wont be a fast game but we will need to have time to write our story any how, so i dont think it will be a problem

	16-11-2004 22:08									#34
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So just to clarify, would we all be writing our story in the same thread, as we pass the turn around?

Since I haven't played one of this type, would that restrict the type of things we would want to write about? Like the discovery of minerals nearby?

	16-11-2004 22:33									#35
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We would need a seperate story thread, Earth. And as for what we'd want to write about, check the DiploFAQ, in my sig line.

	16-11-2004 22:38									#36
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Im confirmed in, of course.

	16-11-2004 22:53									#37
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Also, for anyone interested in playing in Diplogames we do have a Civ-Group. Its the old english D. Please join.

	16-11-2004 23:06									#38
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With Ozzy's permision then I am in and will play one of these things. Have not decided what Civ I want yet but would like to confirm just what it is we all want to do.

What is the problem with Iron Civer? You want to have communication and share map information with civs that you have not yet encountered or established embassies with? I think that is a terrible idea.

I‘m not convinced that we need a separate story thread. When you send your turn to the next player post a paragraph or two about your nations progress. If nothing happened write something about your peoples way of life or about an important personality. If you want to keep information secret, don’t feel restricted by events. If you are about to make a discovery or a new city you don’t have to write it that turn. Write it earlier or later or fill your post with other soft news.

For the more mundane features:
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Monarch level

	16-11-2004 23:09									#39
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Since we've spent months trying to get the other game going, 1889, I figure we just start over here. But I do want to use the map and settings and such from the other game, so vote thusly in the other thread.

As for a seperate story thread I do think its a good idea. All Diplogames have one thread for out of character talk and one for in character. That way the story flows and doesn't get broken up by a bunch of occ stuff. I'd hate for a great story thread to get bogged down in a string of "save sent to xxxx" posts.

	16-11-2004 23:23									#40
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quote: Originally posted by 1889 What is the problem with Iron Civer? You want to have communication and share map information with civs that you have not yet encountered or established embassies with? I think that is a terrible idea.

I don't know what Iron Civer is, but I agree that you must meet someone before you can start trading and talking with them in the game. That makes sense.

	16-11-2004 23:30									#41
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Ozzy probably knows what he's talking about here so a seperate story thread its is.

Other than that this is becoming a complete cluster &*%. What is the other thread for? Snoopy was trying to start a seperate game I thought.

Can every one please stop the links!

	16-11-2004 23:41									#42
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I think we should ask Ming to close all threads except one.

	16-11-2004 23:50									#43
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Well I think we've just got one game here, but there are more players for it than it can hold so it'll necessarily spill into two.

I guess the major disagreement so far is whether to play a diplo on a world map or on a random map. Lets just have those who favor the former start one game, and those who favor the later start another. That's a good way to do it.

I vote for the world map game.

	16-11-2004 23:52									#44
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There are two games being planned one here and the other in snoopys thread so no need to close any threads down

	16-11-2004 23:53									#45
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real world

	16-11-2004 23:57									#46
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Random map

	16-11-2004 23:58									#47
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World Map Diplo-
ChrisiusMaximus
OzzyKP - India
Ljube
smellymummy - Egypt
Modo44 - China

Random Map Diplo-
Earthworm
Modo44
1889

Undeclared:
snoopy369
Beta
Conmcb25
others who have yet to step up

(right?)

Also, if someone wants to play in both games, let me know and I'll edit the above list accordingly.

Last edited by OzzyKP on 17-11-2004 at 00:56

	17-11-2004 00:00									#48
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quote: Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus There are two games being planned one here and the other in snoopys thread so no need to close any threads down

Question.... which is which?

Is this the real world thread and Snoopy's is the random map one?

	17-11-2004 00:05									#49
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I think CM seems to be leaning toward the random map, and he started this thread. So I would say this is the random map thread and Snoopy's poll thread should be converted to the real world thread.

I would like to stick with the random map, although I would vote for a Standard, or if necissary Large map, but definetely not Huge.

	17-11-2004 00:10									#50
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Random map, please.

Ozzy, this is the Chrisius' thread and the otheer is Snoopy's. That's how much I understand so far. Too much clutter.

	17-11-2004 00:13									#51
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how big is the real world or the random map?

	17-11-2004 00:19									#52
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The world map is standard size.

	17-11-2004 00:21									#53
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i vote for world map then


are we also going to have real life civ placement?

	17-11-2004 00:29									#54
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Yes, real world civ placement. As I said in the other thread, this means we'll have to limit people's choices a bit to ensure everyone doesn't pick to be in Europe of course.

I'd like to keep the Americas open because it keeps the fun of the colonial period in tact. With 8 players I recommend players in West Europe, East Europe, India, China, Mid East, Australia, South Africa, and either central Africa or central/northern Asia.

With 5 players we should go with W. Europe, E. Europe, S. Africa, China, Mid East.

Here is the map. Usually I insist on perfection with maps, and this isn't it. But designing maps with Civ3 is harder than in Civ2. I took a standard world map someone did and tweaked it a bit for accuracy and playability, but its still not perfect *sigh* but it is good.

Attachment: civ3worldmap.jpg
This has been downloaded 28 time(s).

	17-11-2004 00:39									#55
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i'll take egypt as my civ choice

will the resources be randomly placed?

	17-11-2004 00:42									#56
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China

	17-11-2004 00:42									#57
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To encourage trade and negotiation and war over resources I've limited each resource (luxury and strategic) to one per player. All in their general historical locations. So there is a lot of oil in the middle east and a lot of silk in China. Also, so the game doesn't get unbalanced at the start, I've placed an iron and horse within each player's starting sphere of influence.

In the modpack I created I also edited the galleys so they can't cross ocean to avoid suicide galleys that make it to the new world anyways.

	17-11-2004 00:43									#58
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Modo, I thought you wanted the random map game? I guess the world map folks have taken over this thread, so try the other one I suppose.

I'll go for India. Though I'm flexible if someone really wants it. And if we only get 5 players, then I'll move elsewhere to keep us spaced out.

	17-11-2004 00:48									#59
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ozzy can you post the map, i'd like to have a closer look at it

	17-11-2004 00:49									#60
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Ozzy, I'll join both games. I just wanted to state my vote. This one is still Chirsius' game, remember.