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Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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I found a good site with some speculation on the story here: http://members.shaw.ca/storage_4/hl2story/

I'm not entirely in agreement with it, but it does provide a lot of factual information I've missed. In my case the jury is still out on a few things.

There's some good evidence there too, like: http://members.shaw.ca/storage_4/hl...ynewspapers.jpg

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It always gets me, no matter how bad or good the story otherwise is, to see a newspaper headline like that. "EARTH SURRENDERS". Damn.

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Good thoughts on the story... but they fail to address one pretty large thing IMO.

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Towards the very end when you see Breen talking to the slug thing, he mentions something about needing a new host body. I'm not sure Breen is actually human at all anymore. This is not addressed at all in that link

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Oh, good point. I was thinking of sending a complimentary email to the author, I'll ask him that one at the same time too. I would hazard a guess, though, that

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the Combine overlord ("advisor") was only talking about having Breen's consciousness moved from his human body to another one - something probably common to the overlords, but to Breen this was an abhorrent thought, which made him refuse it, even if it meant trying to survive in a finished Combine world.

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Your hero Bill Gates is a college dropout

Harvard Business isn't quite a community college in games design.

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I just can't believe it was selling for over $50. They are part of the trend of new games raising their prices . I really don't want to pay over $50.


At current exchange rates I've been paying over $50 for a long while.

New games today (in the UK) are cheaper than they were a few years back due to the proliferation of internet merchants.

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Just got the latest CGM and they gave it 5 stars, so I guess that hands on preview masquerading as a review wasn't that much of a fluke after all.

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HL2 hasnt impressed me yet.

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Have you played it yet?

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Just finished it.




That.

Was.

BADASS.

Goddamn. I think I'll go through it again, this time on the hardest setting. I the GravGun.

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You mean you didn't play it on hard the first time through?

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My my , this HL2 thingey sound pretty exciting! If I get around to a new pc I might take a look.

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Yeah, it was fun... until I realized there was ony 1 type of enemy for pretty much the entire game. I mean really... after the 1000th CP killed the game was worthless to me. And no sniper rifle- what's up with that?

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The crossbow is a more interesting variation of the sniper rifle. And all the environments where you fought were very different.

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The crossbow is a more interesting variation of the sniper rifle. And all the environments where you fought were very different.


Well... the citadel and prospekt were fun environments. But there were hours of climbing similar looking stairs in similar looking buildings.

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Have you played it yet?


Ive played about 30 minutes of single player so far. I havent tried MP.

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The crossbow is a more interesting variation of the sniper rifle. And all the environments where you fought were very different.

Crossbow is a broke attempt to combine benefit of sniping and rocket launching. Gay.

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No, there's a rocket launcher for rocket launching. The crossbow is there because it was in the first game and you can pin guys to walls (though not as cool as in Painkiller, it's still cool).

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Beat the game after I got it earlier this week.



Wow. It was a truly fantastic game and I think I loved every minute of it.

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No, there's a rocket launcher for rocket launching. The crossbow is there because it was in the first game and you can pin guys to walls (though not as cool as in Painkiller, it's still cool).


crossbows had splash dmg.

and rpgs in HL didnt play anything like conventional RLs do in other FPS games.

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crossbows had splash dmg.


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In the original HL, they sorta exploded.

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yes, i was referring to HL1.

on MP, unzoomed shots only.

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The modding community is going to have a field day with this. One group is already making a Speedball 2 remake called sourceball

http://www.sourceball.com/

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I'm actually pretty interested in a true HL1 Source mod, not just the crappy 5 minute one released by Valve. There are a few mod teams that are completely rebuilding the game with the Source engine. That should be pretty cool.

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SPEEDBALL!! Woohoo!! Now there's a game to turn into 3D!

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I'm actually pretty interested in a true HL1 Source mod, not just the crappy 5 minute one released by Valve. There are a few mod teams that are completely rebuilding the game with the Source engine. That should be pretty cool.


The term "source" is a bit confusing. Does this mean Valve has released the sourcecode for HL1?

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On the g-man:
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Is it just me or has the G-Man's speech changed radically? There. must. have. been a. series. of events. that, uh. altered him. He sounds like a bad computer synthesizer. And the logo is gone from his breifcase.

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Source is the name of the HL2 engine. That's why it's "HL1 Source".

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He has a different briefcase now indeed... but no, the speech is the same erratic speech pattern with weird stress and speed.

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I guess Black Mesa is over and he's upgraded his breifcase teleporter. Or finally cleaned the adhesive off ;-)

We all have to ... make choices, Mr. Freeman.

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OK, I just finished it

...and was disapointed.

While I greatly enjoyed playing HL2, the game was unbelievably linear and I'm not sure how much replay value it has.

HL1 was a better game IMO.

 
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