22-11-2004 05:21									#91
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Not a bad theory. I wish that there were some resource that explains exactly what's going on.

On an unrelated note, have you guys seen it when the snipers start shooting down birds? It's awesome.

	22-11-2004 05:48									#92
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Would you say its more demanding than Doom 3? Most of the time I could play Doom 3 at 20-30fps, which isnt worth it.

	22-11-2004 06:27									#93
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God damn, this game is FUN.

The airboat sequence was terrific; most fun I had had in a long time.

And then I hit Ravenholm.

Ho. Ly. Crap.

How I love to use the gravity gun to fling circular saws around.

And that priest is crazier than hell.

Those jumping-running-screeching headcrab-zombies scare the bejeezus outta me.

	22-11-2004 06:39									#94
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They do surprisingly little damage, though, but heck, the SOUND they make... I've heard it somewhere before. It's definitely a stock sound, but god damn is it freaky.

	22-11-2004 07:06									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Russian

	22-11-2004 07:29									#96
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike I would give the edge in lighting effects slightly to Doom 3. That's the only edge it gets. Otherwise, there is no comparison in any aspect of the game. HL2 surpasses it in every other way. Funny Half-Life Moment There's a part in the driving section where you have to get some batteries to open a door. Well, 2 of the batteries are right there, but the other is waaaaay up on some platform that you can't reach. So, I took a barrel and lobbed it up there. It hit the bottom of the platform and sent the battery shooting up in the air. Like a dumbass, I watched it the whole time, until it hit me square in the face and took off 10 health .

rofl

I didn't know there was a battery up there. I found my 3rd battery under the bathtub

	22-11-2004 08:06									#97
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Did anyone else get a good laugh out of the Vortigaunts in chef's hats at Eli's base?

	22-11-2004 08:16									#98
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Yeah, that cracked me up. Those vortigons....

	22-11-2004 10:23									#99
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The whole scene in the elevator was neat. The chef's hats were the ones that took the cake, yes, but it was cool to see them practice their zaps in that one floor, too.

I also thought the teleportation scene was hilarious and brilliant at the same time. First you show up in BREEN'S OFFICE and give the man a surprise he'll never forget. Then you appear behind that other scientist on the balcony - "Where did Gordon go now?" he exclaims - "Right behind you!" Eli shouts on the screen. And then you go back to Breen's office - "and I could swear the man in my office was" Breen turns around and looks at me "GORDON FREEMAN!"

	22-11-2004 20:07									#100
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The game definitely takes place on Earth. And while City 17 is a fictional Eastern European city Valve made up, if it was real, it would be in Estonia.

Snoopy, I did also have shadows in Doom3 that weren't completely black. Have to tweak something. Only the game gets too frigging slow. In fact, in Doom3, in some places the lighting and shadowing worked in such a way that I had a very weird sensation as if the place is real... mind tricks. In HL2, dynamic lighting seems weak.

But overall, I love how the things HL2 pictures are realistic. It's a very beautiful looking, great game.

And on the airboat sequence... yeah, whoah. I especially love the part when you drive full speed, and there's this copter chasing you, and you see ripples on water created by the wind from copter.

	22-11-2004 22:01									#101
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I was climbing down from a guard tower after opening one of the many gates when I saw the helo lower down to the water, looking for me, and that was when I saw the ripples. "Oooooooh."

	22-11-2004 23:58									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py Hmm.. I'm not sure about Doom 3's lighting. Many a time I came across lighting that just looked like fake lighting effects. Half Life 2's lighting effects seem much more refined. When I picked up one of those blades with the Gravity Gun and fired the blade into a wall, it would cast a long shadow against the wall leading down to a small shadow on the floor, accurately casting the correct shape of the blade. Most of Doom 3's shadows were completely black, but most of HL2's shadows are transparent, which is far more realistic. The only thing Doom 3 really has going for it is its fear factor, but I didn't find that very fun.

HL2's lighting is very much inferior to DOOM 3's. You can't even shoot out lights in HL2, which is something I've become used to in most FPS now.

	23-11-2004 01:53									#103
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quote: HL2's lighting is very much inferior to DOOM 3's. You can't even shoot out lights in HL2, which is something I've become used to in most FPS now.

I think, in this case, it was a question of utility: why add extra processing power and programming to let the player shoot out lights when it doesn't affect the game anyway? It isn't a stealth game, so sneaking around in the shadows is useless.

	23-11-2004 01:55									#104
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX I think, in this case, it was a question of utility: why add extra processing power and programming to let the player shoot out lights when it doesn't affect the game anyway? It isn't a stealth game, so sneaking around in the shadows is useless.

The whole game is about being immersive and impressive. When I have a big firefight in a room, and lights are hit and go out...it's impressive.

I know it's not a stealth game, but I think the possibility to shoot out lights is cool.

I know they couldn't do it because they're doing it on a much larger scale (which modern video cards can't do dynamic lighting well with), but the fact remains that DOOM3's lighting is way more advanced than HL2's is.

HL uses lightmaps most of the time, something that's been around since Quake2(?)...

	23-11-2004 02:24									#105
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quote: The whole game is about being immersive and impressive. When I have a big firefight in a room, and lights are hit and go out...it's impressive.

Which is one of the things making HL2 great. No, not lights going out, which they don't. But it's how I have had firefights where bullets hit wooden objects, they break, or better yet, grenades throw stuff in all directions, and so on. No more battles are something where you fight enemies in a room that is static or with a movable object or two at best.

	23-11-2004 02:31									#106
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Asher, you complain more than you don't.


STFU

	23-11-2004 02:38									#107
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Excuse me?

I wasn't aware we weren't allowed to say anything negative about the game in this thread.



Go back to drawing your pictures, little man.

	23-11-2004 03:51									#108
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oh no! sn00py, now you insulted a gay. We cant save you anymore.

	23-11-2004 04:13									#109
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Hmm, did I wander into OT by mistake?

	23-11-2004 04:16									#110
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I love the incredible shadows and tri-linear filtering plus enviroment bump mapping and the true use of DX9 of HL2

(spike; nope )

	23-11-2004 04:56									#111
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quote: Hmm, did I wander into OT by mistake?

Unlikely. Your posts don't count in OT, that's why you don't spam half as much there, remember.

	23-11-2004 05:04									#112
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spamz is bad here

	23-11-2004 05:23									#113
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I miss that thread we were trying to ignore

	23-11-2004 06:20									#114
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius I love the incredible shadows and tri-linear filtering plus enviroment bump mapping and the true use of DX9 of HL2 (spike; nope )

trilinear filtering? That's old news.

The only way to play HL2 is with 16x anisotropic filtering -- especially in the boat level where you walk around inside the pipes.

	23-11-2004 06:32									#115
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Looks like my gef4200+ amd2100+ won't be able to run this baby too smoothly.

Anyhow looks like I'll have to rip the game somewhere. What with all the hassle and all (registering, steam and other bullcrap, + the expensive price)

	23-11-2004 06:38									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Asher trilinear filtering? That's old news. The only way to play HL2 is with 16x anisotropic filtering -- especially in the boat level where you walk around inside the pipes.

I was just pretending to participate to the actual discussion "Mr. Fun"

	23-11-2004 06:39									#117
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BAD POST

	23-11-2004 10:20									#118
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*phew!*

Just beat it

I won't make any comments on the ending, so as to not spoilerize, but I will say I think it is an amazing game as a whole, and I have my own theories on the story that I will discuss at a later date when more people have finished it.

	23-11-2004 14:32									#119
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So ZargonX, what part is the middle of the game? I want to know where I am at the moment.

I'm at that part where Dog throws the car at the combine.

	23-11-2004 14:45									#120
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There are 15 chapters. You are on 11 I think.