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What's wrong with Heidi Klum?

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Oh, and there's one link I've been dying to post here for some time now, but it probably isn't "Apolyton-safe", sadly enough... So I'll just stick to dropping a keyword: domai (read the essentials first).

what's wrong with domai?

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What's wrong with Heidi Klum?


Ask Winston...

But I personally don't find her attractive, which has everything to do with that certain part of the body called the face and not so much with what's under it.

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ut I personally don't find her attractive, which has everything to do with that certain part of the body called the face and not so much with what's under it.

Quite possible (though I have nothing at all against her face), but you were discussing the body, didn't you?

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Well, if you really want to have everyone put up or shut up...

It's just that Ming has this little thing against the babe threads.

They just aren't down with him y'know?

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Hey, Che,

I'd heard the first two lines, but never the whole song.

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I don't think anyone would be against some pics being posted. A babe thread is having mostly pics in a thread, you know.

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Then this is mine.

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This has been downloaded 96 time(s).

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Well, she isn't bad. she's gite a bright happy face ( Even slightly too much, if such a thing is possible.) her body is cool, too, from what I know ( this isn't a very flattering pic, to say the least)

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No, it's just that the more 'flattering' pics would be misconstrued by Ming.

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Not that kind of flattering. . Her stomach looks weird there, for example. Anyway, My turn:
Look at the exquisite facial features. Her body, which is implied here, is also fine, definetly would get 3 thumbs up from any "western male". She's got a C-cup, probably, and got some work done on them before this pic was taken, but certainly doesn't fall under the category of
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I don't like big, unshapely, ridiculous-looking breast implants.


she's also not skinny like hell.

And she definetly has what "the west" considers to "amazing looks".



( I hope this pic and discussion is ok. Please notice, mods, we ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION HERE )

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What's wrong with Heidi Klum?


nothing

She is a bit thin, but if she has implants, they were very well done, and in fact she is not out of proportion.

In fact, I would point to Jennifer Connoly and Salma Hayek as two ways in which you can fill the western standard of beauty without being plastic.

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Quite possible (though I have nothing at all against her face), but you were discussing the body, didn't you?


I can't separate a face from a body, I'm afraid. Ugly women with hot bodies are out.

I was merely wondering how a skinny airbrushed supermodel like Heidi differs so much from all the other celebrities out there that make her hot, while the others supposedly repulse you (Winston).

But I'm more than happy to admit that I think (airbrushed) Carmen Electra and Laetitia Casta are way hot...

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Heidi Klum is on the thinner side, but that doesn't make her thin ( unless you mean thin as not fat) . I would just say that she's in great shape. Any diet that she has isn't harmful to the normal functioning of her body, probably on the contrary. And Jeniffer Connely and Salma Hayek are just GREAT examples.

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I can't separate a face from a body, I'm afraid. Ugly women with hot bodies are out.


Well, she isn't UGLY. Her face isn't WORLD CLASS, but itsn't an ugly one. It's quite cool.

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Well, no, I don't think she's ugly.

But, hey, Heidi Klum was just an example. I'm speaking in more general terms here.

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Heidi Klum

Her breasts are supposed to be real. Someone mentioned her as proof you can have "ideal" breasts without implants.

I actually don't like Alyssa Milano much. Something with her face.

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Alyssa's pretty small.

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As for Mercator's "well, what IS attractive?" I'd say

Angelina Jolie
Jennifer Garner
Shannon Elizabeth
Jessica Alba

All qualify by my book. Paris Hilton earns negative points for looking like the overused blowup doll she reputedly is. Pamela Anderson has the same thing going on; anybody else know what I'm talking about? I think men who go down on those women must see calluses down there. Ugh.

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I actually don't like Alyssa Milano much. Something with her face.





Ben: what do you mean by that? How tall is she?

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Elok: Well, Paris Hilton certainly isn't an amazingly beautiful woman. I don't think that anyone thinks she is. I think I've seen much prettier women, IRL, in the media, and hell, even in the hot or not threads ( kudos to self biased, btw )

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@Azazel: I can't specify exactly what is lacking, but Milano's face isn't very attractive to me. Just take it as an encouraging indication that the evil corporatists haven't totally standardized tastes yet.

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OMG CHE YOUR SO SUPERFECAL.


Am I the only ne who found this damn funny?

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Well, since latest research seems to show that it's nature's way, I AM being concerned. Though it is possible that except simple simmetry, there are other personal preferences. And we seem to diverge greatly on those.

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Am I the only ne who found this damn funny?


You know that was on purpose, right?

Q3: She looks nice, but her face lacks that little something.

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Well, since latest research seems to show that it's nature's way, I AM being concerned. Though it is possible that except simple simmetry, there are other personal preferences. And we seem to diverge greatly on those.

What is nature's way?

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Here is western Ideal without implants or plastic:

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I don't just mean that Paris is unattractive, I mean that she looks like a used car with 300,000 on the odometer. She looks weathered. She looks like if you stick something up to her lips she'll reflexively start sucking just like a baby does. She looks like she's got an autoimmune disorder from all the sperm she's absorbed through her various crevices. She looks like her boobs must have permanent oil smears and fingerprints like the glass in a museum display case. Even if I didn't know her reputation I'd probably think it from her appearance.

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In fact, I would point to Jennifer Connoly and Salma Hayek as two ways in which you can fill the western standard of beauty without being plastic.


Both outstanding choices


As for the rest of you, it's a shame that you limit yourselfs. So many types of women out there and each bring something great.

 
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