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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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Speaking of which, I moved in with my girlfriend after seeing her for 3 months. Yesterday.


You recovered from your messy breakup quick

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Girls aren't always forthcoming about what their real issues are.


I'm thinking that the vast majority of women, had they read the above, would bust a gut laughing.

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Yeah, they do it's just that we don't really believe something like whatever it is they've told us could really be that important.

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Girls aren't always forthcoming about what their real issues are.


I'm thinking that the vast majority of women, had they read the above, would bust a gut laughing.


Why? Maybe that has been your experience, but my experience is that a woman will be more willing to operate in a state of denial than a man will. Women act on their emotions. They get an emotion - they dont always know where it came from - but they then act on that emotion. Men act on logic. So, as a man you need to be aware of this to troubleshoot relationship problems properly.

I've been dating for over 30 years, and you - you are married, right? So I'm confident that I have a good sampling of women on which to base my opinions. Your wife and female relatives do not equal "the vast majority of women".

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See I interpret that data like this:

You have been dating for 30 years - you don't understand women which is why you keep splitting up with them.
He's still married so he does.

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See I interpret that data like this:

You have been dating for 30 years - you don't understand women which is why you keep splitting up with them.
He's still married so he does.


Well, think again. I'm not married because I prefer to experience a variety of women. I split up with them when they want to get too serious. I've probably forgotten more about female behavior than you what you understand about it... Maybe he got married because he found one woman that he finally understood and latched onto her because it was too stressful to deal with the others that he couldn't figure out.. Nothing wrong with that, by the way, but that's not me. And if it were me, I certainly wouldnt go around making blanket statements about my understanding of "the vast majority of women".

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Anyway, he actually only said they'd laugh, he didn't say whether or not he agreed with them in their laughter.

In my personal experience us men are just as irrational and emotional as women. We just try and hide it more.

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And che's single life was over


I wasn't doing anything with it anyway. I suffered from severe shyness and low self-esteme. Looking back, I now realize there were a number of very hot women who were practically throwing themselves at me, but I was too down on myself and to shy to try anything for fear of rejection.

Now I have all kinds of confidence, but I'm no longer young and svelte, and I have a wife. Youth is definately wasted on the young.

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Mike speaks da truth.

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So, as a man you need to be aware of this to troubleshoot relationship problems properly.


I don't have relationship problems.

And I'm aware that men are as emotional as women are... they just deny it better.

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And I'm aware that men are as emotional as women are... they just deny it better.


I'm thinking that the vast majority of women, had they read the above, would bust a gut laughing.


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How about:

"And I'm aware that men are as emotional as women are... they're just better at self-denial about this issue."

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"Fair"? There's no such thing as fairness in love.

But I think the board consensus is right - if she breaks up over you not wanting to move in after a mere three-month relationship, in all likelihood something is seriously enough wrong with her that you're probably better off without her.

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In my personal experience us men are just as irrational and emotional as women. We just try and hide it more.


Yeah, I saw a lot of guys fighting back tears when I took my girl to the cinema to see Titanic...

If a man has a high level of estrogen in his system perhaps he is just as irrational and emotional as a woman.

In general terms, however, I disagree with you.

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In a denial about men's emotionality, BFG gets a little irked and retorts with a sarcastic comment about Titanic.

So, what were you saying again, BFG?

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Anyone who thinks men in general are less emotional than women has never been at a game of football.

(That's football is in real football, not they gay American version, but it holds for any team sport, pretty much.)

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I love when people use out-of-date stereo types as proof that they know what they are talking about...

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Yeah, I saw a lot of guys fighting back tears when I took my girl to the cinema to see Titanic...




Brilliant, you are a genius.

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I love when people use out-of-date stereo types as proof that they know what they are talking about...



Well, go ahead and set us all straight, genius.

And while you are at it, do something to decrease the load on your servers so that I dont have so much trouble making a post!

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adj 1: determined or actuated by emotion rather than reason; "it was an emotional judgment" [ant: cerebral] 2: of more than usual emotion; "his behavior was highly emotional" [ant: unemotional] 3: of or pertaining to emotion; "emotional health"; "an emotional crisis" 4: extravagantly demonstrative; "insincere and effusive demonstrations of sentimental friendship"; "a large gushing female"; "write unrestrained and gushy poetry" [syn: effusive, gushing(a), gushy] 5: of persons; excessively affected by emotion; "he would become emotional over nothing at all"; "she was worked up about all the noise" [syn: aroused, excited, worked up]


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1: determined or actuated by emotion rather than reason

THIS is what I'm talking about. This is what women are and men are not. Men have emotions but control them in favor of acting on facts. Women have emotions and act on them as if they were facts.

The way you stay in control of a relationship as a man is
you CREATE her emotions and she will naturally DESIRE to act on them.

You can not THINK that their minds work analytically like ours do. It's a TOTALLY different process.

Consider:

She stands in front of the tv when the football game is on. We think "SHE HAS *GOT* TO GET OUT FROM IN FRONT OF THE TV!"

You don't bring her flowers. She doesn't think "This guy needs to go out and get me some flowers" She thinks "HE DOSEN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... IS IT MY WEIGHT?... IS HE CHEATING..."


See? It doesn't make any sense because SHE gets an EMOTION from actions and words, then she acts on that, whereas WE act on the facts of the situation.


This is why I am saying that those of you who assert that men are as emotional as women are WRONG.

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And gets mad in the process.

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Naah, not mad. Just earnestly laying the smack down on people with weak arguments...

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You seem very intense on this subject. Are your bollocks backed up?

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His words are backed with nuclear bollocks.

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Naah, not mad. Just earnestly laying the smack down on people with weak arguments...

... while somehow coming across as an emotional crazy relying on anecdotal evidence.

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... while somehow coming across as an emotional crazy relying on anecdotal evidence.


What have you added to this thread? Prove me wrong. Teach us all something, please..

See, the thing is, I know what I'm talking about. It has taken a lot of trial and error in relationships to get to this point, but I'm convinced that I know what I'm talking about. If you all would stop piling on me and read my words of wisdom, you might learn something about women that you didnt know before.

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If a man has a high level of estrogen in his system perhaps he is just as irrational and emotional as a woman.




Would you take me for the rather emotional type?

That I am, enough so, that some of the women I know don't know how to respond. I just don't care about trying to hide it like the other guys.

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If you all would stop piling on me and read my words of wisdom, you might learn something about women that you didnt know before.


I know you're FoS. You know in Arabic culture, men are considered the emotional and pationate ones, who get all weapy about a poem they just read in the newspaper, while women are considered cold and analytical.

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Naah, not mad. Just earnestly laying the smack down on people with weak arguments...


Bald Assertions are "laying the smack down"?

 
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