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Modo44 is offline Modo44
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New technology:

Monotheism done by our solitary scientist, switch to Chvalry (this one is to be decided; we can do Chemistry, Theology or Monarchy instead)


Northern part of the empire

Riots!!!

  • Castle Aaaagh
  • Camelot
  • Cave of Caerbannog
  • Tim's Peak

I was afraid it was my doing, but it seems it wasn't. As far as I can tell, everything was ok 300 AD (previous turn), with 10% luxuries. Apparently War Weariness kicked in, but somehow it shows earlier in a PBEM, not giving a chance to correct, unless you expect it. I see no other explanation. Damn.

We'll have to go to 20% luxuries now, or use 4 scientists/entertainers. This leaves us with (near to) no research, and not even too much cash for upgrades. 129 gpt for unit upkeep. We need the Great Library badly, to keep up technologically during the war.

On the positive side, Workers are now doing a quick tune-up of our northern possessions. I put red dots on planned city spots, as described earlier.

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Suthern part of the empire

Not much to report this time.

CoD stack went, as per agreement, to Orangutan 87. They killed two Monkey Archers, leaving own Horsemen where you see them - near our stack.

Our stack should go 6 or 3 now, to move towards Orangutan.

We have around 9 defenders still in and near Siege Perilous, in case of a Monkey suicide attempt. We'll be able to move them south, once both stacks close in on Orangutan.

There is a Logbowman and 6 Catapults in the CoD stack near Silkfest.

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The riots are because we let the Silks trade from CoD lapse.

Tintagel - why the Aqueduct before a Harbor?

I think 3 over 6 in this case, then next turn we still have the option of threatening Gorilla.

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The riots are because we let the Silks trade from CoD lapse.



What were the terms? Could we renew it? Why didn't they come to us?

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What were the terms? Could we renew it? Why didn't they come to us?


I don't know. The 300BC save just shows Silk to us, so nothing else on a per turn basis, but lump sum or technology may have been involved. Maybe the Foreign Affairs thread has something?

Regardless, I suggest we ask them for more Silks. Tell them we have grown accustomed to the fabric and would prefer not to return to cotton.

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Ah, this is has happened before: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...801#post3101801

Last time they sent Silk accepted the next turn, no questions. Seems the alliance is above bartering.

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Okay, I'll talk to Cort Haus then. I'll also switch the Aqueduct to a Harbor. Troops move as agreed, Workers keep improving, all is well.

Questions:

What to do and what to tell CoD about our (IMO) inability to send more troops down south. We literally would use all our income on military, so we even shouldn't be building much more at home. We have to, but sending those south is hardly an option.

What do we research next? Err, I mean, what does Merlin get to research in his lonely tower in Siege Perilous.

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We tell them that truth, IMO. They are much closer to the action, if reinforcements are needed.

We should build enough forces to adequately defend ourselves. (i.e. Do not rely on the southern stack returning.)

Then we need to stockpile income and build settlers for a southern area ($ to rush temples, harbours, etc). We need to start talking about land division soon.

My no-comment on choosing Chivalry was tacit approval.

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Okay, so the basics for the turn are sorted. I'll be talking to Cort Haus tomorrow morning GMT, and then playing the save.

I've PMed Octavian to come and explain our trading situation a bit, for I might be missing something. Go here to see my basic questions. I think this should be sorted ASAP. I'll post some of my thoughts there later tonight.

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I've PMed Octavian ...


Good idea. I posted in the FA thread as well with some thoughts.

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Ahh, sorry. I was out since we were switching internet service. I'm back online now, though.

The CoD silks were kind of part of the alliance. Nothing formal was ever concluded, and it was just assumed we would be mutually helping one another. I've posted my other comments in the FA thread.

Lastly: I wouldn't research chivalry. There's no iron anyway on this continent, and only one source of horses that CoD controls, making the knowledge of how to build a knight rather useless

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so its coconuts all the way right?

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Turn report

What I did:

  • Sent Monotheism to CoD. The alliance is pretty strong (Hey, they have undefended cities near to the path of our forces!), and it was probably a payment for something anyway.
  • Told Merlin to research Monarchy.
  • Up lux slider to 20%, to get out of the riots. Awaiting Silks from CoD next turn.
  • Workers north keep working.
  • Workers near Siege Perilous idle - too dangerous to send them in now. Consider joining them into the city...
  • Our offensive stack moved 3, to close in on Orangutan.
  • Switched Tintagel to Harbor (3 turns).
  • Sent a Musketeer and a Longbowman to Joyous Garde. Our troops are slow, so we need to have them closer to important cities. If I was on the other continent, I'd be seriously considering invading Monty Python right now.
  • No further units were sent through CoD territory. We only keep moving the ones that already are going south.

I'm thinking about renaming our troops so they get more Monty Python-ish again. I'll get a thread started on that, probably tomorrow.

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