07-03-2005 01:02									#391
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker @jag spoiler(highlight to read): it's 25% light or dark

Oh. then 75% triggers some other stuff. Conversation options and the like.

	07-03-2005 01:30									#392
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it depends on how you look at it

75% refers to 75% up the scale. Or 25% from the top or bottom. It depends if you are a glass is half empty or half full kind of guy.

and if anyone doesn't know, in order to get your prestige class you need to be:

spoiler(highlight to read): all the way or very close to light/dark side mastery and be level 15. The best way to do this as soon as you reach level 15, talk to Kreia. This gains you a free level and puts you to 16. There should be no wasted experience this way.

	07-03-2005 02:10									#393
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You should always reach Dark Side or Light Side Mastery before going to prestige class.

For example, if you're a Consular, and you get to Light Side Mastery, you gain +3 Wisdom. If you then become a Jedi Watchman, you get +3 Constitution in addition to that +3 Wisdom. If you don't have LS or DS mastery when you gain your prestige class, you miss out the first of those two +3 bonuses.

	07-03-2005 02:36									#394
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Diss: spoiler(highlight to read): It will, however, be hard to take over the known universe when one is stranded on a barren rock in a remote section of the galaxy. Keep in mind that, in the dark side ending, it appears the Ebon Hawk is kaput. Even the baddest ass dark jedi needs a ship to go anywhere.

Based on your spoiler, I still have the Star Forge to make all the ships I need.

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	07-03-2005 02:38									#395
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spoiler(highlight to read): But if all the trapped Jedi are killed (in the fight vs. Malak), where are you going to get the power? Didn't those imprisoned Jedi power the Star Forge in the first place? I guess you could give a hint of your own life essence to get a small boat for transportation, I guess.

	07-03-2005 02:43									#396
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spoiler(highlight to read): I didn't think it was those Jedi alone who powered the Star Forge. And even if it was, the Jedi you were playing as would have been the most powerful ever seen, defeating Bastilla and Malak, his experience as Revan, and his experience in his second life. I doubt he couldn't use the force to revive someone, like Kreia did in the KotOR II.

	07-03-2005 02:43									#397
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No they don't, they were making ships before i went to Dantoine(sp?).

They were used for personal power for Malak.

The spoiler tags were for me, btw.

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	07-03-2005 02:45									#398
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia spoiler(highlight to read): But if all the trapped Jedi are killed (in the fight vs. Malak), where are you going to get the power? Didn't those imprisoned Jedi power the Star Forge in the first place?

spoiler(highlight to read): no

	07-03-2005 02:55									#399
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear spoiler(highlight to read): I didn't think it was those Jedi alone who powered the Star Forge. And even if it was, the Jedi you were playing as would have been the most powerful ever seen, defeating Bastilla and Malak, his experience as Revan, and his experience in his second life. I doubt he couldn't use the force to revive someone, like Kreia did in the KotOR II.

spoiler(highlight to read): I didn't kill Bastilla, I turned her to my side

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	07-03-2005 03:00									#400
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But you would only be in that situation if you were dark side, so you would have killed her.

	07-03-2005 03:03									#401
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear But you would only be in that situation if you were dark side, so you would have killed her.

No, I didn't kill her. I turned her from Malak's apprentice to my apprentice.

Together we killed Jolee and the other Jedi. Juhani?

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	07-03-2005 03:19									#402
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Juhani was her name. But the original dark side was to kill her, I thought. But anyways, you would certainly be a powerful duo with battle meditation. Has there ever been a master and apprentice of the Sith that were lovers?

	07-03-2005 04:15									#403
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of course the master/apprentice thing of the Sith is silly.

Why would I want to have an apprentice who will one day rise up to kill me?

I'll go without an apprentice thank you.

	07-03-2005 04:35									#404
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident of course the master/apprentice thing of the Sith is silly. Why would I want to have an apprentice who will one day rise up to kill me? I'll go without an apprentice thank you.

I don't think you could, for a few reasons. One, it goes directly against Sith Law, which clearly states the need for a Master and Apprentice, and then for the Apprentice to kill the Master. Violating that main point of law would make you just Dark Side, not Sith. If you did not point out your successor, the Sith Empire (the one in known space) would fall apart. And it would be pretty hard to manage all things related to Sith by yourself. Why do you think this hasn't been tried before?

	07-03-2005 04:54									#405
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Then why not get the dumbest apprentice you could find?

That way, it would take a looong time for him to be powerful enough to kill you.

Bastila will be too busy .....pleasing..... the master to get more powerful.

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	07-03-2005 05:01									#406
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It would be very interesting to find out what part of the Sith Code would prevail. Love/passion, or hatred/power/vengeance?

	07-03-2005 05:04									#407
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Without passion there is no power.

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	07-03-2005 05:06									#408
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Without passion there is no power. ACK!

Well, I meant greed...

	07-03-2005 05:07									#409
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And by the way, I think the laws of the Jedi are very flawed, and the ban on love and passion is even worse.

Basically, this is what they are saying:


Let's lock you up in a box for your whole life, so you won't know what the Sith Code is, so you can't become one! YAY!

	07-03-2005 07:05									#410
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia spoiler(highlight to read): But if all the trapped Jedi are killed (in the fight vs. Malak), where are you going to get the power? Didn't those imprisoned Jedi power the Star Forge in the first place? I guess you could give a hint of your own life essence to get a small boat for transportation, I guess.

No...

spoiler(highlight to read): The Star Forge was powered directly by the dark side

quote: of course the master/apprentice thing of the Sith is silly. Why would I want to have an apprentice who will one day rise up to kill me?

Well, you want a powerful apprentice so you can dominate better. Your apprentice can be more of the guy on the field, like Vader was for Palpatine. You can't do everything by yourself.

	07-03-2005 07:13									#411
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I managed to do everything myself........

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	07-03-2005 07:15									#412
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When did you lead the Sith Empire?

	07-03-2005 07:18									#413
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Right at the end of the story, they were all cheering me, I don't need Bastila.........

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	07-03-2005 07:21									#414
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Right at the end of the story, they were all cheering me, I don't need Bastila......... ACK!

Hardly... You hadn't managed anything at that point. You still have to manage recruiting new Sith, destroying the Jedi, putting down rival Sith factions, fight the Republic, destroy Kreia and the KotOR II main character, re-build planets, deal with an angry Exchange, etc. etc.

	07-03-2005 07:24									#415
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As soon as KOTOR II gets down to $20, until then I rule the galaxy......

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	07-03-2005 07:28									#416
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I'm just wondering something... If you were actually in the Star Wars universe, what would you do, who would you become, etc?

	07-03-2005 07:46									#417
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I would totally be an Ewok.

	07-03-2005 08:29									#418
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I would totally be an Ewok.

Short, hairy, and irritating?



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	07-03-2005 08:30									#419
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Short, hairy, and irritating? ACK!

No personal attacks.

	07-03-2005 09:02									#420
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I'd be one of those scoundrels with a heart of gold.