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Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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How the **** do I kill the two bounty hunters as Atton?


EDIT: nm, I ended up running around until one of them decided to leave me alone, allowing me to kill them individually. MUCH easier.

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When I went down there, I hardly found anything.


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Yeah, that was weird, I didn't find ANY Jedi relics. WTF?

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Her name is Atris. What I found weird was, who is the third Sith Lord? We know of Lord Sion, and the mask guy, so I'm starting to think Kreia is a bit more dark side than we think.


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Don't worry, he isn't. You find out what happened to Revan sooner or later though.

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So how much better is this than the first, WRT graphics, story, gameplay, etc? Should I get the first KOTOR and play it through?

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With regards to graphics, Obsidian tries to achieve more with some things, which make it look quite nice. They put more details in the battle scenes as well, so if you ever have a battle with many people (which you will, trust me), then it will lag. The story is probably worse, since I found your choices (and influence with other characters) that you made at the beginning of the game, didn't really make that much of a difference with the end of the game. Gameplay is the same though, with very tiny amounts of fine tuning. There isn't so much of a back-story with each character as in KotOR, so don't expect that. I like the different worlds better than in KotOR, they seem larger. If you don't buy KotOR, you do miss a big part of the story. Revan, Malak, Korriban, etc. etc.

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I'lll definately be getting this game, but I have to wait for it to be released on a real platform.

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I'lll definately be getting this game, but I have to wait for it to be released on a real platform.


PC in Feb, but I think it plays pretty good on the Xbox... and it's nice to play RPG's with a controller in a recliner.

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If they are ever make a KotOR III, it needs/should have:

Better graphics
Ability to have a few party members to learn the ways of the Jedi/Sith
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When you say every choice has a consequence, mean it
Slightly less linear
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So how much better is this than the first, WRT graphics, story, gameplay, etc? Should I get the first KOTOR and play it through?


I found the interface to be a bit streamlined from the original. The biggest help is the change to datapads - when you collect one from a corpse, it now pops up in a window large enough that it's readable. Very little scrolling is required for them. I like the plot, if possible, even better - many of the moral choices actually feel like choices, rather than just "ooh, do I want to play a bully or a nice good person?" It's not always clear what the light-side choice is, even.

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Actually it is, but you'll find out why at the end of the story.

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If you don't find out until the end of the story, then it's not clear, obviously.

Anyway, my point was that it wasn't as cut-and-dried as KOTOR I. There are still decisions like "should I help the person or beat them up", but they aren't the only ones.

Also, the game is a bit buggy - I've gotten stuck in a few spots for no apparent reason, and it actually crashed once.

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I had the same problems with bugs. It was quite annoying.

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I think I'll pick up the first KOTOR - it's about 17 bucks at GameStop used.

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Also, about the plot being better - the quest isn't as simple as "go to these four planets, in any order, to get the pieces of the map". It's similar, but the choice of order doesn't feel as pointless. It feels more like a novel.

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I think this may be the last KotOR, unless we finally venture into Sith space.

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It can't be the last one. The end of this one virtually screamed SEQUEL SEQUEL SEQUEL.

I think the loot system is slightly broken, too. You get REALLY good loot, and it's pretty random. I got two of Exar Kun's light battle suits off of corpses on the final planet. And you get way too many lightsabers.

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It can't be the last one. The end of this one virtually screamed SEQUEL SEQUEL SEQUEL.


Can't say I am surprised. Still, I'm looking forward to the PC release.

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Wooot!! I hadn't played for a while, so I picked it up again and beat the game! Very nice ending .

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I was light side, so at the end, I asked about my friends rather than say I want to be like Revan and stay behind. Very cool stuff Kreia talked about.

It was hilarious when she said if you were expecting some information that would shake you to your core, you won't get it. That was such a nice tip to the first game .

And whoa.. , I didn't know Mandalore was Canderous from the first game!! Should have clicked, sinch Carth was Admiral (should have seen more of him, IMO).

Also nice to hear that Revan went out to Sith space to try to kill the Sith once and for all, and he had to leave 'her' behind. 'Her', obviously being Bastilla, which was cool. Though you had to play the first game to realize it.

Btw, when you asked Kreia about the Mandalorians and she said they would die out millenia later which the shell of their armor, worn by a shell of a man, destroyed by Jedi, did anyone else think of VADER? His armor looks kind of like Mandalorian armor, covering every bit of him. He was a shell of a man after being beaten by Obi Won. And he was destroyed by Jedi, Luke. Interesting thought, I think.

And I really liked the fact that Kreia's real goal wasn't to rule the Empire and manipulating you into it, but getting you to kill ALL the Jedi and Sith in Republic space, starting over, if you will. And destroying the Force (which your character won't do, which means Kreia failed in what she wanted to do with you). More like a Bond supervillian, rather than those silly Empire domination types. The Force runs all our lives and I want to free people from having the Force deny free will... further cementing Kreia as the most Ayn Rand character in ANY video game ever.

And I don't know if there will be a sequal with the character in this game. That would require going into Sith space and leaving the good parts about exploring the Republic.


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I think the loot system is slightly broken, too. You get REALLY good loot, and it's pretty random. I got two of Exar Kun's light battle suits off of corpses on the final planet. And you get way too many lightsabers.


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The stuff I used was set well before the final planet. All the armor and sabers were just occupying extra spots in my inventory and nothing more.

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If this is coming out in Feb I'd better finish KOTOR 1 then!

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Shouldn't be too hard...you can beat it in a day pretty easily.

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I just wonder what Sith space would be like...

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Thought you didn't like it?

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Shouldn't be too hard...you can beat it in a day pretty easily.


You did? I did all the quests and it was a good 40 hours of gameplay.

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Shouldn't be too hard...you can beat it in a day pretty easily.


maybe if yous skip half the quests. and some battles can be hard if you are a lower level. Though for the most part the game is easy.

The first game just isn't that big. I know it backwards and forwards. Yet everytime I take it off my hard drive I have the urge to play it again.

It's not on my hard drive right now, and guess want. I want to play it.

Like I said I know the game very well, and there just isn't that much variation in characters to make it much different.

Is there many more options for characters in the second one?

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Well there are specialized Jedi Master classes, which you can choose when you hit Level 15 in your original Jedi class.

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I hate waiting for KOTOR2. maybe I'll install KOTOR again.

I need something different. Maybe I'll try to solo that game. Not much of a challenge though. Nothing like soloing Baldur's Gate 2 (which I still haven't done- one of these days...). But then you miss out on the largest part of the game.

Maybe I'll try a game with Mission all the way through. She sucks so bad... That could be a challenge.

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Maybe you can just post more on Poly .

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I hate waiting for KOTOR2. maybe I'll install KOTOR again.

I need something different. Maybe I'll try to solo that game. Not much of a challenge though. Nothing like soloing Baldur's Gate 2 (which I still haven't done- one of these days...). But then you miss out on the largest part of the game.

Maybe I'll try a game with Mission all the way through. She sucks so bad... That could be a challenge.


Yeah its tricky in that respect. Because a large part of the fun in KOTOR is the interaction between your own party, and the things you discover about them all.

Whats the name of the little droid thing again? you could try alternating between him + Mission, its bound to make it more difficult - might not be much fun though?

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Do you mean the evil droid or the other one?

 
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