10-12-2004 05:44									#31
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Thanks x2.

	10-12-2004 05:45									#32
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So after the battle:

- 4 2/5 T
- 2 3/5 T
- 3 4/5 T
- 1 3/4 T
- 2 1/4 T
- 29 art
- 3 Cav
- 2 1/4 Inf
- 3 2/4 Inf
- 1 2/5 Inf
- 7 4/4 Inf
- 1 4/5 Inf

	10-12-2004 05:52									#33
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Okay, I'm ending the rest of the turn now.

movement continued
I found another patch of workers (they grow everywhere!).
- MI in Red Bricks 8 captures settler next to it. (Legopolis 22)
- marine captures 3 workers on forest on Legopolis 3
- marine captures 3 workers on forest on Dye fields 47
- marine captures 3 workers on forest on Dye fields 41
- 3/4 marine captures worker on Ahhmyfoot 7

(this still leaves on worker at Forkmouth 47, but that's not too bad. We won't be able to keep everything anyway.)

I'm thinking on where to put the workers that can still move... we still can put a bunch of defenders on Quanto 2, including 5 workers.

The rest... well.. the question is if we try to hold on to them, or put them in the open as bait.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 05:52									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO Does defensive bombardment happen once per turn, or once per opposing civ? We had 16 defenisve bombardments, out of 27. Are GoW going to get 11, or 27? DeepO

I'd guess 1 per turn, otherwise it would have to maintain per-civ flags for auto-bombard which sounds a PITA to implement. Only a guess, though. Anyone remember the AU 'Total, Forever War'?

	10-12-2004 05:53									#35
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Spotted the last workers as well: at ahhmyfoot 1. Another cav slowing forest was just built there

DeepO

	10-12-2004 05:54									#36
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Eight 4 hp inf before they get to the damaged stuff. Most of the tanks have 3 or more HP's.

I have no idea if the arties can get a defensive bombardment on another round vs a different civ. I would think not, but who knows. Maybe someone has seen battle reports from other games and can address that issue.

So it looks decent for GoW to get the job done.

	10-12-2004 05:54									#37
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could we put the workers, one per tile, on the RR in open terriotory, to make Lego use up an attack with a unit to clear the path if they attack us?

	10-12-2004 05:59									#38
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Krill, yes we can. We can also put radartowers everywhere, which also takes a unit to destroy.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:00									#39
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Ok, make all of the workers make radar towers. If Lego don't recapture the workers, then we get the bonus. Even better.

	10-12-2004 06:02									#40
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..or build forests.

	10-12-2004 06:06									#41
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Are we quite sure they can't capture radar towers?

	10-12-2004 06:06									#42
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DeepO I guess I was not clear, I said no need to post it right now. I meant not needed today. IOW, I can wait.

As long as I am mentioning that subject, I am not even sure we do them a favor by holding back the news. If it was me, I would rather know the bad news now, rather than wait for more time and wonder what is going on, with GoW still to go.

Either way is fine by me. It is not like anyone will be affected in real life by the game. It is just my perspective and means nothing. Just tally up the consenses and go with that.

In fact, if someone has a real big feeling about it one way or another they have my backing. So what you all decide is great.

	10-12-2004 06:07									#43
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

movement continued

- 'our' explorer used to pillage the rubber source. Afterwards moved to Quanto 2 (NII 99)
- freshly captured explorer used to pillage the rest of the rubber source. Also moved to Quanto 2 afterwards.

- moved 2 2/4 DD and transport to Hub 3. Forted the 3 ships.
- moved 1/5 DD to same position as well (at least it can provide some cover fire)
Hub 3 now consists of 2 TR, 1/5 DD 1/4 DD, 2 2/4 DD.

- moved DD from Blizzard 96323 (closer to our chain)
- moved sub from WoC to Inchoff.

- the DD at Hub 2 moves 99314 (back at hub 2. CV is already forted for view)

That only leaves our defense in former Legoland, economic stuff on Stormia, and abandoning all we can. I'll take a pic now for posteriority.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:08									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Cort Haus Are we quite sure they can't capture radar towers?

You cannot capture them, they must be destroyed.

	10-12-2004 06:10									#45
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vmxa, sorry, didn't understand you the first time. Please give me some time here, I want to end the turn first, then discuss all other things. I've been concentrating for hours, even days in one session, it's normal I start to miss certain things.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:11									#46
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yeah, well, radar towers where we don't need them aren't going to do us any good either. E.g. at the forests around Stanwix. I rather have a slave then a radar tower we'll never use...

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:13									#47
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Fab job DeepO with a big assist from Aeson.

	10-12-2004 06:17									#48
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO That only leaves our defense in former Legoland ... DeepO

I'd suggest that the western city that ND can reach in one turn be considered a priority. If they see the state of Lego and have transports available we could get Lego'd ourselves.

Maybe it's a small ND city, and cheap to spy.

	10-12-2004 06:19									#49
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I am not sure what T has been up to, but I bet Arrain and T will be shocked and pleased at the progress.

	10-12-2004 06:20									#50
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The worker was moved to show GoW's stack

DeepO

[edited to hide the economical information. this pic is now safe for public consmuption ]

Last edited by DeepO on 11-12-2004 at 03:02

	10-12-2004 06:23									#51
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Oh, and CH: this is the only picture for internal use only... so no disclosure of this to MZ. But I thought it would be neat to show the minimap. The blue area on Legoland is nearly as big as the blue area on Stormia...

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:26									#52
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CH, I was talking about the defense on Legoland, not Stormia

We still have transports, which can transport basically all we want to NI 88 (Quanto 2). I suggest we put some infs there, together with at least a couple of workers. One worker can make a radar tower on NI 89 (it is still covered by a marine), other radar towers would fall into Lego territory once we disband / give the cities.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:27									#53
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I've PM'd Theseus and Arrian.

	10-12-2004 06:31									#54
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cities to be abandoned:
- Forkmouth
- Sando
- Tarzania
- Karina

Our new cities we simply give, and let GoW abandon.

- Legopolis we can't destroy, or we force GoW to go through Dye fields. Again, I'd rather have Jackson destroyed if they have to choose.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:32									#55
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Lego has been split, so the capitol is cut off from about half of the empire now. They are going to have some very unhappy citizens when they get the turn again.

No Sistine either. Did we ever figure out where the FP was or did I miss that?

	10-12-2004 06:33									#56
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Who wants to PM Vel?

	10-12-2004 06:34									#57
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FP: Karina for sure Gone now. And their palace jumped to Abilene, including their CIA!

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:35									#58
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CH, go right ahead. I guess Nathan, if he isn't following this, might also want to see it. After all, it's because of his work in the first year that we ever got this far.

DeepO

	10-12-2004 06:39									#59
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I did not know they got a free IA with the loss of the capitol, that sucks. Good thing they are losing their cash. They will still need to plant a spy I presume.

My test was with the IA not being in the capitol city, so I lost my spy.

	10-12-2004 06:43									#60
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a sight to behold. hats off to all involved. I'm once again completely impressed by the bold moves taken and the planning and strategy that went into executing this turn.