23-01-2005 22:55									#91
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it would nice to know how much iron (for example) you can get from a mine before it runs out.

	24-01-2005 00:07									#92
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Settlers has a complex system whereby you can get precisely the amount that was in it before you started mining.

	24-01-2005 01:47									#93
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Do you mean if you rebuild the mine it is full again?

I just finished chapt 2, my forces were spread thin in the end so it took awhile to get more troops to where they needed to be.

	24-01-2005 03:31									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 Do you mean if you rebuild the mine it is full again?

No in that case the amount that was in it before you started mining the second time would be none, resulting in you getting none.

	24-01-2005 05:34									#95
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Mines need to be moved to new mining areas when the old ones get depleted. Which is not too hard, as your geologists can be mass-exploring a new mountain while the original mines are working. Once they get depleted (or even before) you can then start the new ones being constructed.

	25-01-2005 03:29									#96
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Settlers has a complex system whereby you can get precisely the amount that was in it before you started mining.

Wise guy.

and the amount in the mine before you start mining is?

	25-01-2005 03:43									#97
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Able to be seen if you have a map editing program that comes with the gold edition.

	25-01-2005 03:46									#98
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Wise guy. and the amount in the mine before you start mining is?

You can only find that out by Skanky's tool, or by mining it to see how much is in it.

	25-01-2005 23:01									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Able to be seen if you have a map editing program that comes with the gold edition.

Im quite sure i dont have the gold edition.

	25-01-2005 23:02									#100
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike You can only find that out by Skanky's tool, or by mining it to see how much is in it.

I suppose I COULD do a test run, build ONE mine, and see how much comes out before it goes empty. Thats a tad obsessive - i didnt even do that sort of thing for Civ2.

	26-01-2005 00:04									#101
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Then you shall forever be at the mercy of the Settlers' gods.

	26-01-2005 08:09									#102
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Then you shall forever be at the mercy of the Settlers' gods.

for a while yet. Ive finally finished chapter 3 - took over 5 hours. Not a lot of new buildings, etc for a five hour chapter. There ARE new things in the following chapters, I trust?

	26-01-2005 10:01									#103
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Just be aware that mines don't just mine the block they are in - they mine a fairly large area around themselves. If you build one mine it will last three times as long as 3 mines in a small area. It will also take 3 times as long to mine the same amount of ore though.

Each chapter adds something new. For example, chapter 4 (iirc) sees you playing with shipping for the first time. 5 sees you without fish for the first time (and in a race to mine as much stone as you can before your enemy does. This is one of the few maps I make lots of tools (picks) in). Later on you will have enemies attacking you outright before you have even met them let alone attacked them first.

	27-01-2005 01:50									#104
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I agree. Keep with it for now.

	27-01-2005 08:25									#105
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I agree. Keep with it for now.

ive started chapter 4. another annoying technical thing - if i pause the game and leave for some RL activity, and come back say 20 minutes later, the game is usually frozen, and has to be closed and restarted from the desktop to get going again. Given my RL time constraints, this makes going slower still. although it does give the chance go give orders with the game stopped, which normal pause doesnt seem to do.

	27-01-2005 16:46									#106
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I had that problem once, not sure if this happens again, since I never leave the game in pause mode for that long time...

Though I once had a much worse technical issue with the game: When I saved the game, it spent 15 minutes doing that before I could get back to playing the game

This was a very long time ago, back when I almost didn't know how a computer works, so I never found the problem

	28-01-2005 00:12									#107
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Solution: Don't leave games for RL activity.

	28-01-2005 06:07									#108
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Solution: Don't leave games for RL activity.

	28-01-2005 22:48									#109
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Glad to be of service. If you want any more advice just ask.

	29-01-2005 10:21									#110
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Glad to be of service. If you want any more advice just ask.

Why didnt they make clear what a ship does before I build BOTH a harbor AND a shipyard? I could have sited things a bit better, sent the first expedition to a more useful place, etc.

	29-01-2005 10:36									#111
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The manual doesn't help in this regard either.

	29-01-2005 14:47									#112
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Why didnt they make clear what a ship does before I build BOTH a harbor AND a shipyard? I could have sited things a bit better, sent the first expedition to a more useful place, etc.

There is quite a lot you have to learn yourself.

	29-01-2005 21:18									#113
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Solution: Don't leave games for RL activity.

Know we know the real difference between "hardcore" and "casual" gamers

	31-01-2005 02:10									#114
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well i must see the game handles the ships quite well. Micromanaging ships was one of the most frustrating aspects of 1602.

	31-01-2005 02:59									#115
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	31-01-2005 03:00									#116
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Yep, I do hate micromanaging ships, though the ships are very stupid in S2

	31-01-2005 03:01									#117
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Too bad it's not possible to make maps where ships can be used with the editor

	31-01-2005 07:30									#118
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Actually, ships drive me crazy in S2. An unoccupied island in the middle of nowhere that is completely safe? Better take our only general to fill the barracks there. Oh, and 40 gold coins. So what if the main island only has that many coins and are actually using them to train people?

That and they sometimes tend to crash / get stuck on a particular point of land and never move again. Thats why I build multiple ships.

	31-01-2005 16:40									#119
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As I said... ships are stupid

Though I've never seen any ships get stuck?

	31-01-2005 17:57									#120
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Its happened to me multiple times. :shrug: