12-12-2004 05:16									#1
	settlers 2 Got spare money?

Just bought this used, for $5(US). Wouldnt have gotten it now, as im still immersed in MoO2, but its a rare bargain bin find.

Your thoughts on this game?

	12-12-2004 05:28									#2
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	12-12-2004 05:29									#3
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Worse than S3 but great atmoshphere and nostalgia value. Does it run on XP?

	12-12-2004 06:11									#4
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Great game, runs on XP. Not that I've gotten sound to work. It takes a lot of patience though to play, especially training soldiers before invading the enemy. I tend to have a full castle to train my soldiers in. You can thereby train 6 privates into generals at the cost of only 1 gold coin each. Doing the same with a single soldier at a barracks costs 5 gold, with 2 soldiers training them both costs 6 gold.

	12-12-2004 15:37									#5
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Worse than S3?? What are you smoking. Settlers2 is a great game (albeit a little aged now) that should provide you $5 worth of entertainment easily.

LotM - sort out a good resource base first.

	12-12-2004 19:26									#6
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Yes, very good game. Best in the settlers series. (well, I never tried the original, but...)

	13-12-2004 04:22									#7
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S3 was a different game to S2. Both are worth playing as they are different games with vastly different strategies.

	13-12-2004 15:55									#8
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Did you buy the gold version, or just vanilla S2?

Without the addon, the game runs fine in WinXP (though without sounds), but if you install the addon I couldn't get the mouse working (not everybody has this problem though)
About 6 months ago I wanted to play the game again, but couldn't get the game working, so I found some software (from MS) called Virtual PC. I then created a new drive (in the software) and installed Win98SE, so when I want to play S2 I simply have to (when in WinXP) start Virtual PC up, start Win98SE, then play the game, which uses about a gig just for me to play S2

Settlers II and III are two totally different games. S3 is a version of the game for those who want a fast game (lasting less than 90 min). In 99% of all maps you don't have to think twice about where to build what and when. S2 is more complex compared to S3 in most ways. A game of S2 often takes more than 5 hours, and if the map is very large, and you've got lots of enemies, then you'd probably also end up playing more than 10 hours
Some people don't like the road building part of S2, but I kinda like it, since IMHO it adds more possibilities for the player to screw up, if he doesn't know how to make a good road-network
War is in S2 very simplified, so if you were looking for another war-game, then S2 is not the game for you. This is not just another AoE clone

	13-12-2004 16:03									#9
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Yes, very good game. Best in the settlers series. (well, I never tried the original, but...)

Yep, S2 is the best Settlers game ever. It mostly improved on the first settlers game (adding more stuff, while they almost didn't remove anything)

The only things from S1 I miss in S2 are:

Boats (not ships) in S2 can only travel a very short distance, while in S1 they could travel infinite. This travel distance is just too short to make the boat usefull
When playing against people who haven't played the game much, there was this funny thing you could do, if they made a certain mistake (which as a newbie often did). The mistake was to build a road next to the borders. If they did this I could connect my roads to their roads. Often I just made them (the other players settlers) build a few houses (like a woodcutter or such), before I disconnect from their road-network and connect to my roads. This gives me a free buildings and free workforce
Always fun to see their faces when they discovered what happened

	13-12-2004 16:47									#10
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Oh, and just FYI, there's a group of Germans who's trying to make an unofficial addon to S2, where they're planning on making MP a reality, while they're also trying to make the game a bit more deep in other aspects of the game.
I haven't been around their forum, so I have no idea how much they've done for now, and how much they expect to be done (and when)

	13-12-2004 22:00									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Did you buy the gold version, or just vanilla S2? Without the addon, the game runs fine in WinXP (though without sounds), but if you install the addon I couldn't get the mouse working (not everybody has this problem though) About 6 months ago I wanted to play the game again, but couldn't get the game working, so I found some software (from MS) called Virtual PC. I then created a new drive (in the software) and installed Win98SE, so when I want to play S2 I simply have to (when in WinXP) start Virtual PC up, start Win98SE, then play the game, which uses about a gig just for me to play S2 Settlers II and III are two totally different games. S3 is a version of the game for those who want a fast game (lasting less than 90 min). In 99% of all maps you don't have to think twice about where to build what and when. S2 is more complex compared to S3 in most ways. A game of S2 often takes more than 5 hours, and if the map is very large, and you've got lots of enemies, then you'd probably also end up playing more than 10 hours Some people don't like the road building part of S2, but I kinda like it, since IMHO it adds more possibilities for the player to screw up, if he doesn't know how to make a good road-network War is in S2 very simplified, so if you were looking for another war-game, then S2 is not the game for you. This is not just another AoE clone

1. Its the plain vanilla version, Im pretty sure.
2. Im NOT running XP, so that shouldnt be a problem.
3. I expected it to be different from AOE clones - somewhere closer to a citybuilder, IIUC?

	13-12-2004 22:13									#12
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You're right, it's closer to being a citybuilder than AoE (and it's clones), so you're on the right track

If you like this game, you should try to find the Mission CD addon, it adds something nice to the game, like an map editor (and makes it possible to use maps you can find on the numerous S2 fan sites)

	14-12-2004 00:22									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns S3 was a different game to S2. Both are worth playing as they are different games with vastly different strategies.

If different means worse, then I agree.

	14-12-2004 04:21									#14
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I like them both for different reasons. S2 is vastly superior of course.

	14-12-2004 04:30									#15
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So you agree with me; stop being awkward.

	14-12-2004 04:51									#16
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:no:

	14-12-2004 14:37									#17
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Ok, maybe I got to quit smoking

	14-12-2004 19:12									#18
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I play settlers2 gold edition - settlers3 got a try, but seemed to have lost its charm(as have the later versions).
I think for those who loved settlers(the first game got me seriously hooked for ages on my amiga) - then Settlers2 is considered the best in the same way people still regard Civ2 as the best. Not everyone agrees on this

I love the little rabbits hopping around the place
And what i felt when i saw just what my hunters did

great game - very relaxing

	14-12-2004 19:20									#19
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I just wish Blue Byte (ehmm... I mean Ubi Soft) soon would make a REAL sequel to S2... wont happen though

	14-12-2004 20:35									#20
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I doubt it too - if we do get anymore expect the dreaded 3D approach!!

Hmm.....i play S2(g) on my P166, and its not quite as smooth as the origonal runs on my amiga - but i havent yet tried it on my new pc, so something to try this evening

	14-12-2004 20:46									#21
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I doubt it too - if we do get anymore expect the dreaded 3D approach!!

There is another Settlers game in production, and it is using realistic 3D graphics.

	14-12-2004 21:26									#22
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But it has NOTHING to do with Settlers. As far as I know they have removed everything that made Settlers great

I remember that before they started on making that new "settlers" game, they had a poll on what people liked about the settlers series, and IIRC the comic look of the game was among the most liked parts of the game (ok, it wasn't actually a deep poll)... apparently they didn't care about their own poll

	14-12-2004 23:24									#23
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Ok, maybe I got to quit smoking

Yup.

	15-12-2004 15:56									#24
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well Settlers2 didnt want to run on my new pc - i think it was having problems with the onboard graphics and sound chips during game setup? oh well, i'll have to keep my trusty p166 forever

	15-12-2004 22:26									#25
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Yup, I still have a machine with Win98 installed. It's a 1.2 Ghz though so it can easily handle old games.

	16-12-2004 04:14									#26
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Sound tends to be a problem with S2, so sometimes running the nosound file instead of the standard gets the game working.

	16-12-2004 21:31									#27
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I played so much S1 that although I enjoyed dabbling with S2 and S3 I never gave either of them significant playing time.

	17-12-2004 00:30									#28
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Yeah the first was really fresh. Also, I can still hum the theme tune.

	17-12-2004 07:01									#29
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I installed S2 today (because of this thread, never had played the game) and I'm having lots of fun. Sound effects are working on my XP, but no music. Despite the aged graphics, the game is genuinely interesting and watching the little people doing their work is amazing.

What really impresses me is the attention to detail, like when you get a new message a dove appears over the branch of a tree. Too bad most of the games nowadays have lost this kind of attention to detail.

	17-12-2004 09:06									#30
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If only you could replace the sound the guy makes when getting water from the well. :fingersonchalkboard: