21-12-2004 04:40									#1
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Lets get some things back on track....maybe, this will get the Consuls (i.e. turnplayer - singular tense) to atleast post a more though turn report.....

Status

- Republic
- Researching Sometech (x beakers stored, need x beakers total, x turns left)
- Treasury x gold (end of last turn), approx +x (+x) gpt, = approx x gold (at begining of turn).
- Running at x/x/0 Sci/Tax/Lux

- Anticipated start of GA - Turn 223 (910 AD)

Urgent Business for This Turn

Economic:

To be edited by the Consul/MoI


Military:

to be edited by the Consuls/MoW


Diplomatic:

To be edited by Consuls/FAM


Other:

To be Edited by the Consuls

Link to turn 161 report
Edit link to point to previous turn's report

	21-12-2004 04:40									#2
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Ministry of the Interior

NOT READY YET

Economy:

To be edited by MoI

Rushing

See Short, Throughput & Regular Rushing Turn by Turn Approval Thread for general rushing requests
and see Turn 171, 550AD post in that thread for this turn's specific requests and approvals.
Edit the post link when coping and pasting.

To be edited by MoI

Worker Force:

To be edited by MoI

Workers:

To be edited by MoI

Settlers:

To be edited by MoI

Preturn SIM Results: actual save should be the same

Beaker Power = x BPT
Cash Power = x GPT
At 50% = x BPT & x GPT
x (this turn, @50%) + x (previous) = x beakers towards Sometech
x - x = x left after this turn (x more turns).
GNP = x
Mfg = x
Prod = x
GPT = +x (+x CFC)

	21-12-2004 04:41									#3
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Ministry of War

MoW Thread


Various Unit Movement orders AND/OR general Order outline (or links to such)



Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Foreign Affairs thread

Links to current relative discussions and Orders for FAM things.

	21-12-2004 04:48									#4
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Gosh, it only took me about 5 minutes to create this thread and link/update the Index and then post this.....sheesh, no wonder participation is down (Holidays notwithstanding), because nothing is posted to help keep the lurkers informed....

E_T

	21-12-2004 05:42									#5
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- We lost all of the Knights that we had landed near Santopia (GCA city).

- We are in our 2nd turn of WW Bonus from GWT Attacking/Declaring War on us. Let's try to keep this up for as long as possible.

- We now have Metallurgy

We need to seriously examine how things are progressing in the game, on all levels. Please don't play the save yet, BF. More to come later.

E_T

	22-12-2004 03:55									#6
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OK, I will hold off a bit.

This is the turn that CFC does their attacking in GCA's South...

	27-12-2004 11:51									#7
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Ummm....How much longer do I hold off?

	27-12-2004 11:54									#8
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FOREVER!!!!11!11eleven

	27-12-2004 17:26									#9
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Maybe E_T's away for the hols, as I was until now.

If there's no sign of him in 24 hours, one of us should play it, BF.

	29-12-2004 10:57									#10
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Sorry, I've been suffering with a blinding Toothache for the last 48 hours or so. I now have some anibiotics and pain killers in me and it's starting to feel better.

I was hopeing for a bit more of a discussion in the other thrad that I had posted, before doing anything else.

The thing is, there is a lot that needs to be done and some major desisions that need to be made:

1) Are we going to make an effort, to either play this game properly or not at all??

The reason that I think that this question is important, is that I'm NOT going to take ANY effort at that (and most wouldn;t be that hard to do, just some outlines with some specifics at points, but still take TIME to get togeather) if we aren't going to make any effort to succeed. If we are just to sit back and let things happen and then woe the day when things fall apart, when we can just shoot this or what??

Or is it "Mostly Dead"?? Do we need to take this game to a "Miracle Max" to breath some life back into it??

2) If we do TRY to keep the game going, what do we need to try to do?? WHAT are our OBJECTIVES??

This game is running on SO much apathy, that we have basically 1.5 Conculs, with our "Mandated" form of turn reporting has been reduced to 2 very uninteresting and very vague postings about TWO turns in the same turnthread, because the Consul was too lazy and appathetic to even care to make the effort.

DOES ANY ONE EVEN KNOW (OR EVEN CARE) THAT WE ARE NOW AT WAR WITH GWT!! Sure, we post some stupid thing about CFC ****ing up and having to attack us, but what about the fact that GWT attacked and killed the knights (yes, they are DEAD - 3 less knights, a big investment at this point in time)?? What was said about that little fact, or the fact that we have, atleast for a time, a WW Bonus that we can now use??

3) What kinds of discussions should we now be making?? What do we need to do to succeed in this game??? How can we try to WORK AT WAR with our Alliance members??

First off, we need to figure as to how long and how we go about it, for making the WW work for us and ultimately, work against GWT?? What, pray tell, are we doing with the fleet (and all of the EXPENSIVE Units that we have on it)? We need to work on some plans.

For one thing, we DO have an Alliance Embassy, over at the CGN Forum, curtasy of Miccofl. It's http://www.civgaming.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61 and you will have to register at CGN and PM/e-mail Miccofl for access to both it and the Private CGN-Poly Forum.

The Planning between all 3 of the alliance members is there, so for the Warriors in us, who have any ideas as to how we will have to fight GWT/GCA on the beaches, go there and post about them. I've started a The War Room - Continental Defense Conference Room ove in that Alliance forum, for the discussion of how we can make plans as to how we can defend ourselves.


But then, that is if we want to make an effort......

E_T

	07-01-2005 20:43									#11
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First of all *****ing about consuls will get you no where E_T.

I believe all three are doing it because they were asked/ talked into doing it. None of them REALLY wanted to do it but felt they had to in order to keep the game alive and hopefully save Apolyton's reputation.

So its not like they are jumping up and down and happy as hell to be consuls.

There was more than enough mis management before they took over. I nearly begged the previous administration to name whomever was going to be your replacement, and also whomever was going to be the new MOW. I was told several times we didn't need to worry about it because the game was on a pause (again :sigh: ), well so the work to try and find your replacement was never finalized. I wont mention any names


And any and all of the people who had an interest back then in doing MOI work have since faded away and not come back.

So the lack of vision really started LONG before this group tookover.

And the lurkers can ***** about what we aren't doing, but quite frankly I haven't seen anyone call a COC. If its that bad then CALL A COC! Ill bet BF would actually find one almost a relief so he could play "hide the weanie" even more.

Until some more people say I want to step forward, and get this thing on track we wont progress.

And I dont think posting complete turn reports and a few polls is going to change that.

Im not going to do anymore for this team then I am already doing. Ill check the UN from time to time and go to CGN occassionally to see if anything is happening at the alliance forums. Ill even play the turn if BF is jammed up and my schedule allows, Buts thats all I can do, I have my hands full at the C3CISDG which I have had a part to play from the beginning and I intend to see it completed to the end, and it looks like I may become a turn player in the PtWGDII .

But *****ing at consuls isn't going to do squat.

More active participation is.

Last edited by conmcb25 on 07-01-2005 at 23:58

	08-01-2005 00:04									#12
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And no more holding off on playing the save, when one of our two participating consuls can play it, it gets played.

That last delay nearly cost us the game without us making a decision.

When the consuls have a window to play, they play.

Delaying right before the holidays was not a really good plan.

	08-01-2005 07:50									#13
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Well, what do we do? I have neither the time nor the motivation to post a lengthy turn report - playing is simple and almost relaxing, whereas it is the report that takes the time and wears on the nerves.

Our civilization is just getting too big to categorise everything, I think. Perhaps it is feasible to post a summary of what went on, but I really don't know if ANYone wants to play and do all of that all the time.

	08-01-2005 08:05									#14
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Maybe a summary of worker actions/economic things would help?

	09-01-2005 02:58									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Maybe a summary of worker actions/economic things would help?

Fine.

I will try to include some information along with playing the turn. I highly doubt that will bring more positve, work provoking, thought intensive input from my team mates here..

I just had Ming give me Mod powers so I will "try" to clean things up a bit.