25-12-2004 06:45									#1
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What is Yang building these days (2153) now that he has researched Superconductor?

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	25-12-2004 09:03									#2
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And what's the big picture in 2153?

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	25-12-2004 09:38									#3
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Council Votes?

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	25-12-2004 09:43									#4
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And what's Lal up to these days?

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	04-01-2005 12:45									#5
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2154 diplomacy scans

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2154 PK Base Production

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	04-01-2005 13:13									#7
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Of course we haven't (yet) infiltrated the Angels or the Gaians, so we don't know their scores, but here are the other five (note that our population is our own 33 plus the University's 10, for AC scoring purposes):

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	10-01-2005 06:20									#9
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Hmm, I'm afraid everyone might be aware we're transporting a probe south.

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	10-01-2005 06:48									#10
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Given that, we should prolly use the probe to steal a tech (framing Morgan) and thus show that it's no threat to the Angels or Gaians)

	10-01-2005 12:00									#11
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Hmm - see my other post - we'll likely lose the probe and not even get a tech.

I also see that the situation re contacts is as it was the year before - Morgan hasn't yet met the Angels nor the Gaians, nor have the A's or G's met Lal or Zak. Our tenuous hold on the levers of inter-faction communications remains intact for another turn.

	11-01-2005 22:27									#12
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Look at the Hive's Gaian Expeditionary Army (stacked on that unit we see that I've hilited yellow) - and there are 3 more units that don't fit on the horizontal scroll below!!!

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	11-01-2005 23:18									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Look at the Hive's Gaian Expeditionary Army (stacked on that unit we see that I've hilited yellow) - and there are 3 more units that don't fit on the horizontal scroll below!!!

After looking at this, I think it would be safe to assume, that the Gaians won't be able to threaten anyone for a while. If they survive, that is.

	12-01-2005 00:08									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 After looking at this, I think it would be safe to assume, that the Gaians won't be able to threaten anyone for a while. If they survive, that is.

You see the AI:s throw these at you every once in a while, but they're actually not as bad as they seem. They tend to fragment as they travel towards you, or they stack 12 units right in front of your base. They don't properly coordinate attacks. An army this size could probably be wiped out with 3 impact rovers, or indeed 4 or 5 mind worms, especially if it needs to travel through fungus.

So I fear our Gaian friends will be ok. But let's drink to them for being so kind as to distract Yang this time

When the AI gets Air Power, then you can start to worry (for your formers if nothing else).

	12-01-2005 20:32									#15
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We have come to the same level if not slightly surpassed the Corporation as the second most powerful faction on Chiron.

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	12-01-2005 21:27									#17
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Snoddasmannen, I know the AI can't coordinate attacks. But if it has rovers, it should at least do some damage in the initial meeting with the Gaians. Which should be good enough to keep them defending own borders, and not joining some far-away wars.

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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Snoddasmannen, I know the AI can't coordinate attacks. But if it has rovers, it should at least do some damage in the initial meeting with the Gaians. Which should be good enough to keep them defending own borders, and not joining some far-away wars.

Yes I definately agree

	14-01-2005 20:04									#19
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The Hive's foothold in Arcadia:

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	20-01-2005 08:54									#20
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............... and what are they up to now?:

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	20-01-2005 14:01									#21
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Hole of Aspiration looks like there's trouble nearby. Could the Gaians be that close? Or maybe some massive Worms?

	27-01-2005 12:24									#22
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Hi everybody!

There is a new member (Chairman Chang) who has contacted me about membership in Sparta. ("Hi!" If you get in and read this ) The thing is he wants some data on the Federation and I want to know exactly what I can divulge. If he decides to join some other team we don't want him having information which they don't know.

So this is what he wants to know (wildly guessing at the vB list syntax):

• Base Count
  
• Population
  
• Diplomatic Seats
  
• Current alliances/vendettas
  
• Most recent discovery
  
• Favorite Color
  

I believe population can be safely revealed, but not base count, right? I'm guessing diplo status with the other humans is probably taboo as well, and obviously most recent discovery. Can we also tell him we have embassies in all other nations? Err, except the ones we burned

	27-01-2005 14:19									#23
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Perhaps try something like this. Values based on overall standings of us versus other factions:

[*]Base Count
High

[*]Population
High

[*]Diplomatic Seats
What does he mean by this? If embassies, I think we can tell him.

[*]Current alliances/vendettas
Our official standings - the ones in-game. Those aren't secret.

[*]Most recent discovery
We forget.

[*]Favorite Color
I have no clue. Mine is green.

	27-01-2005 21:43									#24
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Are we (collectively) in trouble, or what?

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	27-01-2005 21:47									#25
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On top of what he already has:

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	27-01-2005 21:49									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Are we (collectively) in trouble, or what?

Yeah, those Rec. Commons will set us in dire straits in a couple of years.

But seriously, at least we're not the only ones being exposed to this. The gaians have their 3-mindworm stack defending Gaia, and I'm sure it does them well. But we don't have a natural choke-point so we're in deeper doo-doo.

	27-01-2005 21:56									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 [*]Favorite Color I have no clue. Mine is green.

We're Spartans! Black of course!

	27-01-2005 22:07									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac We're Spartans! Black of course!

My reply was Black - as in our uniforms,
and Fear - as in the eyes of our enemies


The rest of the answers were basically like Modo suggested, vague and qualitative. He replied again and seemed very keen to join.

	27-01-2005 23:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Are we (collectively) in trouble, or what?

No. It's just an AI at war. I've seen worse things easily manageable in Civ3, which is more difficult in that regard. Set up a killzone with a small amount of units, and we'll be ok even without choke points. A Sensor near Minas Tirith/Two Nuts Stand would be very helpful, but efficient offensive units are usually the key.

EDIT:
Judging by the look of Yang's bases, the units have very low experience. This shouldn't be a problem for us any more than it is for the Gaians.

What bothers me most is, that he isn't going after Morgan.

	28-01-2005 23:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 What bothers me most is, that he isn't going after Morgan.

Who knows that may change next year. (At least if he steals a tech instead of infiltrates)

Anyway, I agree the Hive shouldn't be a problem if we can get a few offensive units in Minas Tirith. The problem is getting those offense units there before the Hive does.