28-12-2004 01:40									#1
	United States of Europe vs. Stalinland: Ukraine, pt. II Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Since my thread would inevitably have the best title, it was my solemn duty to start this new one.



(Of course, in reality US of E would be a few provinces bigger, but we haven't got the new map yet so whatevs)

Yuschenko
Yanukovich
Freedom
Russian imperialism
Ted Striker

	28-12-2004 01:42									#2
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I'm sure Ted Striker was instrumental in bringing about the Yushchenko victory.

	28-12-2004 01:42									#3
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Partition Ukraine!

	28-12-2004 01:43									#4
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will everyone PLEASE be nice to the Russians, this is a difficult time for some of them.

Russians: we LIKE you, we REALLY LIKE you.

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Yuschenko
Yanukovich
Freedom
Russian Imperialism
American Imperialism
Ted Striker

	28-12-2004 01:44									#6
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Stalinland?

Shame on you, its Brezhneville!

	28-12-2004 01:45									#7
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Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko.

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fair election
Ukrainian unity
Dioxin poisoning
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theories
Ukraine continuing to get along with Russia, AND the West

Evil Finns

	28-12-2004 01:47									#9
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Yushchenko
Capitalism
Putin

This is a new era in Ukrainean politics, as for the first time in 300 years it will start to move away from Russian control and tyranny.

	28-12-2004 01:47									#10
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Ok, so which is better?

Stalinland
Kruschevburg
Brezhneville
Chernenko Park
Andropov Town

	28-12-2004 01:48									#11
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quote: Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko.

Sure. The people picked Chavez, too. The people pick all sorts of people.

And Yanukovich is no commie.

	28-12-2004 01:49									#12
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partitioning between Germany and Russia

	28-12-2004 01:50									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Why thumbs down to Yanukovich, azazel? I thought you were a commie. And there is no American imperialism here. This is a demonstration of freedom. The people picked Yushchenko. Sure. The people picked Chavez, too. The people pick all sorts of people. And Yanukovich is no commie.

Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference.

	28-12-2004 01:54									#14
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quote: Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference.

Wait, what do you think goes on in the Ukraine right now? It has democracy and freedom, the way you like it. The only thing Yuschenko adds to the mix is a lil bit of ukrainian nationalism.

Some people have no idea, I guess.

	28-12-2004 01:55									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Since my thread would inevitably have the best title, it was my solemn duty to start this new one. (Of course, in reality US of E would be a few provinces bigger, but we haven't got the new map yet so whatevs) Yuschenko Yanukovich Freedom Russian imperialism Ted Striker

quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist I'm sure Ted Striker was instrumental in bringing about the Yushchenko victory.

quote: Originally posted by Azazel Yuschenko Yanukovich Freedom Russian Imperialism American Imperialism Ted Striker

Ruslana

	28-12-2004 01:55									#16
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Forza Italia, yes?

my father and brother were just on about how good strong leadership would be for the west, with no freedom of thought (!) and all... what is it with people nowadays? would YOU like being oppressed, no matter how good strong leadership sounds?

	28-12-2004 01:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Yushchenko will be a good leader as he will open Ukraine to capitalism and freedom (which are synonomous [sp?]), Chavez is not. That's the difference. Wait, what do you think goes on in the Ukraine right now? It has democracy and freedom, the way you like it. The only thing Yuschenko adds to the mix is a lil bit of ukrainian nationalism. Some people have no idea, I guess.

Nationalism is not bad, especially if it is against a nation like Russia.

	28-12-2004 01:58									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Forza Italia, yes? my father and brother were just on about how good strong leadership would be for the west, with no freedom of thought (!) and all... what is it with people nowadays? would YOU like being oppressed, no matter how good strong leadership sounds?

I am for freedom of thought. Yushchenko is for freedom and democracy, whereas Yanukovich represents the old Kuchma order that was silencing people. Check your allegiances. And check your comments. Forza Italia is a great coalition of heroes that stands for freedom. So shut up.

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quote: Nationalism is not bad, especially if it is against a nation like Russia.

	28-12-2004 02:01									#20
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how free is a coalition that stays in power by changing law according to their own interests and not the people's

	28-12-2004 02:01									#21
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everyone laugh at Gian

	28-12-2004 02:06									#22
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just heard the Ukrainian Transport Minister found dead. Anyone know whats happening?

	28-12-2004 02:07									#23
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Debates at poly getting simpler and easier to follow.

	28-12-2004 02:13									#24
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For which we can thank Ted Striker

	28-12-2004 02:13									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion how free is a coalition that stays in power by changing law according to their own interests and not the people's

look at your stupid country.

	28-12-2004 02:23									#26
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Normally, the winner of a presidential election comes to power.

In Ukraine, the winner first comes to power, and after that wins the election.

	28-12-2004 02:26									#27
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond Normally, the winner of a presidential election comes to power. In Ukraine, the winner first comes to power, and after that wins the election.

No.. that's more russian style. Putin kept the power and rigged the election.

	28-12-2004 02:30									#28
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Russians: we LIKE you, we REALLY LIKE you.

There is a related Russian saying: However many times you repeat the word 'sugar', you won't get sweet taste in the mouth.

	28-12-2004 02:33									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo No.. that's more russian style. Putin kept the power and rigged the election.

Putin didn't need to rig it. His advantage was overwhelming anyway.

	28-12-2004 02:35									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond Putin didn't need to rig it. His advantage was overwhelming anyway.

Yeah he had his soldiers vote 20 times each. Not to mention cast a few million fradulant ballots.. and despite international objections, silence the opposition.