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What an idiot!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ...eact/index.html

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Arsehole.

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I wonder why he did it. Is he a Nazi and figured he could get away with because it was a costume party or is he actually that completely oblivious to reality?

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Whats the big deal? Hes certainly not the first guy Ive seen dressed up as a nazi at a fancy dress party.

Is it considered bad form to dress up as any historical bad guy? Its just a costume. If he was preaching nazi ideology or dissing any Jews present or whatever, it would be a different matter

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it's not the brightest thing he's ever done, but there seems to be a bit of an overeaction here.

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Overreaction? This man is third in line to the throne of the British Empire. This is a total lack of judgement on his part. Someone this close to the throne can't afford to exhibit this type of insensitivity. Tens of millions of people died due to the Nazis. Harry needs to realize that with his position comes a certain amount of responsibility.

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Overreaction? This man is third in line to the throne of the British Empire.
And if that position held any real power, it might actually matter.

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yeah but it was at a fancy dress party, is it really that awful to go dressed as a bad guy from history? Lord knows there are enough of them.

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Nov 2001
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They should force him to watch that "dressing-up-like-hitler-is-not-cool" video from South Park.
"Adolf Hitler was a very very naughty man"

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Come on, he's just a teenager trying to look 'cool'.

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yeah but it was at a fancy dress party, is it really that awful to go dressed as a bad guy from history? Lord knows there are enough of them.


It is if the villain's victims are still around and you're flagrantly displaying yourself in their view. I wouldn't go dressed as Idi Amin to a party full of Ugandans, that's for sure.

(And of course, Harry is always in the public view.)

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He apparently told reporters that he thought the swastika was a "communist windmill". I find that rather more worrying than wearing the thing in the first place.

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There's TV comedies with people wearing Nazi uniforms, i don't see why people get their knickers in a twist over some drunkard public figure dressing up as one.

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Not Politically Correct... so true...
An Idiot... so true...

Something to make a big deal out of... NOT

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buckseed, well i'm not sure it's quite the same, he didn't go dressed as hitler, he went dressed as a german military commander.

if it was an indication that harry was a nazi, then it would be something to worry about, but i don't think it is, anymore than wearing a 'CCCP' jacket is an indication of being a communist.

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Overreaction? This man is third in line to the throne of the British Empire. This is a total lack of judgement on his part. Someone this close to the throne can't afford to exhibit this type of insensitivity. Tens of millions of people died due to the Nazis.


It was a private fancy dress party. It was admittedly a lack of judgment and taste, and clear signs that this 20 year old needs to grow up a lot quicker.

However, people are reacting as though he'd just professed neofascist leanings, which despite his seeming ability to open his mouth and put both feet in, he hasn't done.


Millions of people died because of Catholicism and religion, and people still dress up as nuns, bishops and go to vicars and tarts parties.


Oh, and the British swapped an empire for a Commonwealth a while ago.

http://www.commonwealthfoundation.com/

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if it was an indication that harry was a nazi, then it would be something to worry about, but i don't think it is, anymore than wearing a 'CCCP' jacket is an indication of being a communist.


I know quite a lot of people who feel personally offended by CCCP jackets. And remember the furore here on Poly over Stalin avatars?

Rebecah Wade at The Sun recently got into trouble for putting the headline "Bye Bye Big 'Ead" (about Brian Clough's death) next to an article about the beheading of Iraq hostages. Was it intentional? Certainly not. Should she (or at least her subeditors) have seen that it was inappropriate and might offend and not done it? Definitely.

It would have been a different matter if Harry had been doing it as a piece of black humour of something. But he is obviously just clueless.

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yes some people are over-sensitive, that's hardly big news

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WHat's the problem with wearing an army uniform to a fancy dress party? It's just the same as a comedian dressing up as Hitler for a sketch, or a drama about Stalinism. What's the big deal?

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I see he has inherited his Grand Dads knack for putting his foot in it!

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Exactly how stupid do you have to be though.

Please put all these monarch out of their misery once and for all...

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Exactly how stupid do you have to be though.

Please put all these monarch out of their misery once and for all...


He's just going back to his roots.......

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WHat's the problem with wearing an army uniform to a fancy dress party? It's just the same as a comedian dressing up as Hitler for a sketch, or a drama about Stalinism. What's the big deal?


I think there's a difference between being offensive for comical or artistic purposes (or using potentially offensive material for an artistic purpose, knowing it might be percieved as offensive) and being offensive out of malice or ignorance. This wasn't a joke, he's just a prat with no clue about history.

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it's not the brightest thing he's ever done, but there seems to be a bit of an overeaction here.

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think there's a difference between being offensive for comical or artistic purposes (or using potentially offensive material for an artistic purpose, knowing it might be percieved as offensive) and being offensive out of malice or ignorance.


And of course this was for the comical, unless you think he was doing it out of malice?

We have living history days at the many battlefields around where I live, and I sometimes set up a table with some of the WWII stuff I have collected. Just a few rifles and a machine gun, a few helmets. Mostly German. I will be sitting there talking to American WWII vets with their VFW hats about their experiances and hippies will still walk up and imply I am an nazi for owning the stuff. This is the same thing.

Though I will admit that knowing who he is wearing the Swastika arm band is a bit much, especially since in isn't a German Army uniform item, rarely worn.

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And of course this was for the comical, unless you think he was doing it out of malice?



Mmm, do much dressing up for fancy dress parties in Klan costumes, do you?


See, some people might think that comical, other people might take offence.

Was there a pressing need for him to wear a swstika armband?

No. He could have worn a plain old dull Wehrmacht uniform, without the symbol of the Nazi Party. He could have dressed up as the Kaiser- after all, that would have been relative.

However, being the undereducated expensive Royal twit that he is, he just couldn't think far enough ahead to see the consequences of his actions.

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Well, in the US owning/buying/selling NAZI memorabilia is cool. But in many other first-world countries it would land you on the wrong side of the law.

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Maybe, just maybe, it's another step in Britain's ascencion to modernity by removing the uselesses from their royal throne?

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Well, the Royal family are Jerrys.

Anything to get rid of the parasitic scum I say.

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Maybe, just maybe, it's another step in Britain's ascencion to modernity by removing the uselesses from their royal throne?


That would involve wholesale culling of the afflicted.

 
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