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DanS
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Kickball Capital of the World
Jan 1970
time: 00:30
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Some good points with regard to the video card, but the 9200 really isn't much either, considering the video RAM. Also, he has an excellent point with regard to XP Home. Who really uses XP Home?
The biggest difference between the two is that the Mac Mini has a 1.2 GHz G4 processor, which is pretty underpowered compared to a 2.4 GHz Celeron. He says it's a wash, but I don't believe it. If they only would have made the Mac Mini slightly higher powered (say a 1.8 GHz chip) and 512Mb video card, it would be a lustworthy box for $500. As it stands, Microsoft is going to come out with 3 GHz dual core processor XBox 2 and charge $300 or whatever for it. Maybe they will even put out a PC version of the XBox 2.
Also, I'm annoyed that Apple didn't include an SPDIF output. The author didn't mention that the Dell probably comes with one, but the Mac Mini doesn't.
Last edited by DanS on 20-01-2005 at 08:13
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:30
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Why don't they compare the $499 Dell to the $499 Mac? Wouldn't this make more sense?
| Mac mini | Dell Dimension 3000 |
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| $499 | $499 | | 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 processor | 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 processor | | 256MB single-channel DDR RAM (supports up to 1GB) | 512MB dual-channel DDR RAM (supports up to 2GB) | | ATI Radeon 9200 (32MB dedicated VRAM) | Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (uses system RAM for video) | | 40GB hard drive | 40GB hard drive | | Slot-loading Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CDRW) | DVD-ROM (read-only) drive | | One FireWire 400 port | no FireWire (PCs don't need FireWire...$30 if you want) | | Two USB 2.0 ports | Six USB 2.0 ports | | 10/100BASE-T Ethernet | 10/100BASE-T Ethernet | | 56K V.92 modem | 56K PCI Data Fax Modem | | AirPort Extreme- and Bluetooth-ready | No wireless | | Audio out | Integrated audio | | Operating System: Mac OS X 10.3 | Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition | Software:
Stock OS X apps, iLife '05, AppleWorks, Quicken 2005, Nanosaur 2,
Marble Blast Gold. (Not to mention TextEdit, which has limited Word
compatibility.) | Software: Internet Explorer, WordPerfect, Paint
Shop Pro Studio trial, Photo Album Starter Edition, Dell Jukebox,
Acrobat Reader 6.0 | | One-year warranty | 90-day warranty ($19 for 1-year) | | No display | 19-inch Dell E773c CRT display OR 15" LCD display | | No keyboard/mouse | Dell keyboard/mouse |
No contest from a price standpoint. Not to mention the Dell also comes with stuff like 6 months of free internet service.
To give an idea how lopsided the performance is...
SPECint2000 benchmarks:
1.25GHz G4: 384
2.8GHz P4: 970
SPECfp2000 benchmarks:
1.25GHz G4: 234
2.8GHz P4: 938
Last edited by Asher on 20-01-2005 at 23:13
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:30
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quote:
Originally posted by DanS
Well, in any event, even with the Dimension 3000, the Mac Mini stands up very well (and is better in several respects), except with regard to CPU power. The Radeon 9200 is a lot better than the Intel integrated graphics, for instance. |
No, it's not -- that system is heavily bottlenecked by the incredibly slow CPU, a faster graphics doesn't do anything. I'm not even going to mention how useless a "good" graphics card is on a value system, especially a Mac like this is.
The people who buy the Mac Mini or Dell Dimension 3000 aren't doing 3D gaming, period...especially if they have a Mac, where 3D games are hard to find. 
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