28-01-2005 05:14									#121
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Yeah, also it's very important to get the map right, in terms of numerous balance factors, playability, variation etc... especially for a game like this which is intended to be tighter and denser.

Dominae has decided/agreed to make the map! Which is great as we can assume it's going to be a really good map and spot on in terms of balance. Also after posting in this thread he knows what is needed and is trusted by everyone.

All that is needed is to formalize the specifications.

	28-01-2005 06:22									#122
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as we to be the Mongols

our name to be The Blood Oath Horde

	28-01-2005 07:54									#123
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quote: Originally posted by skrobism I have an idea for speeding up the game... Starting it!

hmm..vote by team,country & time zone


ok?

	28-01-2005 09:10									#124
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Woah ... leave for 24 hours and things go nuts!

I believe we agreed to vote in polls after teams are decided, with each team getting one vote. I would remind you that until I change my vote, between 1.5 and 3.5 (more than half) votes (out of six) are for AP.

After all, it's not about winning the popularity contest, but winning the electoral college ...

Anywho, I believe a compromise will end up being the way to go; a larger starter pack will overall lend to a faster game, without the detriments some people find in AP.

I also strongly feel that without AP we HAVE to have 60% water, and only 60% water (or else a larger map). Demo Games are more interesting with decent sized armies on the field, and a 80% water small pangea will not allow enough cities for the sort of action we expect. A large starter pack allows a larger pangea to be settled without too slow of contact (3 settlers, or more, for example). I don't want to play a game where I can only build five or six cities... that's starcraft, not civ. (Although the same could be said of AP i suppose ... )

Dominae, are you actually making the map or is OPD pulling our leg? If so, thanks, and I'll move you to the Admin Team shortly! I definitely think a random-feel map is a good way to go, with different teams having different challenges to overcome (desert, marsh, jungle, etc.) ... without a Ag civ it shouldn't be too difficult to balance

	28-01-2005 09:16									#125
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quote: Originally posted by skrobism Beta, was that really directed at me? If so, point taken. Everyone agreeing on rules is a good thing.

Yup - it was. Thanks!

Wasn't meaning to be a pain, but we have some experience to go on. And to be honest, I really like the way the start and arrangements for this game are shaping up. Should make for a better game.

And I am looking forward to decimating these Hoarde people.

	28-01-2005 09:17									#126
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Woah ... leave for 24 hours and things go nuts!

So, don't do that again. OK?

And please bury the AP. May it rest in peace like 1889's old computer.

	28-01-2005 09:22									#127
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Okay, edits made (including Dominae to Team Admin).

I would like to see a sixth team formed; with Conmcb still apparently away, we need that team formed soon so we can decide on whatnot.

Folks who haven't chosen civs yet, do so now please. I'm going to start threads for voting on specific issues so we can do so. MarkG is going to give us forums I believe, I have to PM him with the info (which I need to GET first!) on teams and so on, but I think it will take until we actually get the teams formed to get such things...

In voting, each team gets one vote, and the player listed first on the first post in this thread (generally the player I asked to form a team and/or the player who told me he/she was forming a team) gets to make that vote (hopefully a democratically decided on thing!). Discussion of course is allowed, but I ask that you do most of the discussing internally in the next 48 hours.

Dominae I would suggest that you consider 48-72 hours as the length we expect to take to vote, so we probably can't make anything mapwise before the weekend is nearly over ... if that's a problem (ie you prefer to work during the weekend) I'm fine waiting a full week to start if necessary (unless voting is faster than I guess it to be)...

Thanks again to everyone for jumping in so quickly ... I'm honestly overwhelmed by the response to this - I was worried I'd have a small 4 team 3 player/team affair ... wow is all I can say

	28-01-2005 09:24									#128
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I've negotiated a satisfactory contract with Team Lung, and will be joining my services to theirs. I'm at GMT -6, btw.

Oh, and one more vote for Dom's starter pack, but I do condone violence, and in fact encourage it.

	28-01-2005 09:37									#129
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Beta, I accept your invite to your team.

Thanks!

	28-01-2005 10:07									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi I've negotiated a satisfactory contract with Team Lung, and will be joining my services to theirs. I'm at GMT -6, btw. Oh, and one more vote for Dom's starter pack, but I do condone violence, and in fact encourage it.

Now THAT'S a merc team member!

	28-01-2005 10:21									#131
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See, UnO, it's not hopeless. Solomwi and I at least like violence

	28-01-2005 10:45									#132
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quote: Dominae I would suggest that you consider 48-72 hours as the length we expect to take to vote, so we probably can't make anything mapwise before the weekend is nearly over ... if that's a problem (ie you prefer to work during the weekend) I'm fine waiting a full week to start if necessary (unless voting is faster than I guess it to be)...

I will have time during the week to make the map, so it should be ready whenever you guys are.

	28-01-2005 10:55									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae I will have time during the week to make the map, so it should be ready whenever you guys are.

*twiddles his fingers*

Excellent ...

	28-01-2005 11:15									#134
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Okay, one more thing:

NAME THIS SUCKER!!!

MarkG wants a name for this, and I haven't yet decided to call it such a boring thing as C3CDG. (But maybe we should?)

Any creative names? (Paddy, this is for you ... )

	28-01-2005 11:19									#135
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"C3CDG: The Last Hurrah"

"C3CDG: The Final Confrontation"

"C3CDG: Evil Personified"

"C3CDG: Madness and Mayhem"

	28-01-2005 11:21									#136
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blah

Well, I guess I should come up with one if i'm going to be a critic ...

"C3CDG: Industrial Age or Bust"

	28-01-2005 11:21									#137
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Hey, why don't we play it on a map of Middle Earth?

	28-01-2005 11:23									#138
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And a final note:

Please come up with a team name ASAP for those of you who don't. Otherwise I will have to give you a name - and you have seen my capacity for naming things (read post 1... )

	28-01-2005 11:24									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 Hey, why don't we play it on a map of Middle Earth?

Hmm, all that lava would be not good for growing cities i'm thinking ...



Though we could call it

C3CDG: Lord of the Streams

and have Dominae give us a lot of rivers going towards the middle of the map ...

	28-01-2005 11:26									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 "C3CDG: The Last Hurrah" "C3CDG: The Final Confrontation" "C3CDG: Evil Personified" "C3CDG: Madness and Mayhem"

And no fair editing afterwards and making my comments about your posts look bad

The last one is already taken (Madness game).

How about
C3CDG: Short and Stout
or
C3CDG: Blood On The Grass
or
C3CDG: Muddy Waters
??

	28-01-2005 11:32									#141
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 And no fair editing afterwards and making my comments about your posts look bad

Edit? What edit? Do you see a "last edited by...." denotion? No, I thought not

And I still like my names better

	28-01-2005 14:12									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Beta And I am looking forward to decimating these Hoarde people.

You got it wrong, we *decimate*, we don't 'get decimated'


C3CDG: Lets try to finish before Civ4



C3CDG: Blood'n Guts


or
C3CDG: Can't we all just get along?

	28-01-2005 14:30									#143
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Beta, can I be on your team as a "lurker" ?

(watching, but not deciding)

	28-01-2005 17:17									#144
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BFM!!! By all means my friend. Welcome!!

(anyone who uses an avatar that is a picture of one of my cats is more than welcome on Team Babylon)

And welcome to Skrobism as well.

	28-01-2005 17:20									#145
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As to a name - and I know we have a pbem called this, but we could still use it here....

Clash of Titans

..or suggestion number two -

The Smart or the Dead

	28-01-2005 17:21									#146
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quote: Originally posted by bongo You got it wrong, we *decimate*, we don't 'get decimated' C3CDG: Lets try to finish before Civ4 C3CDG: Blood'n Guts or C3CDG: Can't we all just get along?

we certainly will be having fun when we over run your civ Beta

I like the above names...

C3CDG: Blood 'n Guts

	28-01-2005 17:23									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Beta As to a name - and I know we have a pbem called this, but we could still use it here.... Clash of Titans

good call indeed

	28-01-2005 17:52									#148
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Nah, more like C3CDG: Clash of the HotHeads




Did I mention I get paid for this?

	28-01-2005 20:37									#149
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How about "C3CDG: The rise of Babylon"?

	28-01-2005 20:41									#150
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C3CDG: All for the Glory of Rickey Henderson.

That's got to be the title. It simply can't be anything else.