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MarkG is offline MarkG
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Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Announces Acquisition of Civilization Franchise and Long-Term Partnership with FIRAXIS Games

Wednesday January 26, 7:55 am ET
Sid Meier's Civilization Makes its Triumphant Return to PC in 2005!


NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 26, 2005--Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ:TTWO - News), today announced that it has purchased certain rights to the multi-million unit selling Civilization franchise, and has signed a long-term, multi-title publishing agreement with FIRAXIS Games®, developers of Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, SimGolf, Gettysburg, Civilization III, Pirates! and other critically acclaimed simulation and strategy games. Kicking off this new partnership will be the highly anticipated Sid Meier's Civilization IV for PC, which will be published by Take-Two's publishing label 2K Games in late 2005, with future expansions and additional PC and console games to follow.

"The Civilization name brings with it an expectation of quality from millions of fans around the world," said Susan Lewis, Vice President of Publishing for 2K Games. "It is a pleasure to be working with a company like FIRAXIS that has developers who have proven with every successive title that they are masters of this genre."

"We are extremely pleased to be partnering with 2K Games on a new journey into the evolving world of Civilization," said Jeff Briggs, Founder, President and CEO of FIRAXIS Games. "2K Games' emergence as a publisher dedicated to producing high-quality, genre-defining games ensures that Civilization IV and FIRAXIS titles will continue to push the creative envelope and reach bigger audiences than ever before."

"In Civilization, we've created a world with endless possibilities that has been embraced by game players all over the globe," said Sid Meier, Director of Creative Development at FIRAXIS Games. "With the upcoming addition of Civilization IV, our core fans and newcomers alike will enter a world of unparalleled scope and detail."

The fourth game in the PC strategy series that has sold over five million copies, Sid Meier's Civilization IV is a bold step forward for the franchise, with spectacular new 3D graphics and all-new single and multiplayer content. Civilization IV will also set a new standard for user-modification, allowing gamers to create their own add-ons using the standard Python and XML scripting languages.

Sid Meier's Civilization IV will be released for PC in late 2005. For more information please visit www.firaxis.com or write kgilmore@firaxis.com.

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Darn, you beat me to it.

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But I was the first.

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...405#post3583405

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Beat me by half an hour... I guess this is good news? I do not know anything about Take-Two, is it something I should know before I celebrate?

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i hope civ4 doesnt have the... style of the gta games

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That's them? Isn't that RockStar or something?

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There's a link to GTA: San Andreas on the main page, so it would appear they had something to do with it

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Us hardcore fans already sort of knew this for a while, but good to see it's official now...

No more Atari!

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What, driving around the capital city stealing people's chariots and running over and shooting random spearmen passing by?

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From Take 2 website:

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Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. is a leading worldwide publisher, developer and distributor of interactive entertainment software, hardware and accessories.

Take-Two's product offerings include titles for the leading hardware platforms - the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system, the Xbox® video game system from Microsoft™, the PlayStation® game console, Nintendo GameCube™ and Nintendo Game Boy Advance, as well as for PCs. The Company publishes and develops products through its wholly owned labels: Rockstar Games and Global Star Software; and distributes products in North America through its Jack of All Games subsidiary. Take-Two also manufactures and markets video game and electronic peripherals and accessories in Europe, North America and the Asia Pacific region through its Joytech subsidiary.

The Company’s proprietary brand franchises include Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, Midnight Club, Manhunt, Smuggler’s Run, Red Dead Revolver, Oni, Spec Ops, Railroad Tycoon and Tropico. Licensed brands include Mafia, Conflict: Desert Storm, Stronghold and Hidden & Dangerous.


This is their site, if someone wants to know a bit more about Civ's new home:

http://www.take2games.com/index.php

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They have GTA and now they have Civ. Well, at least they have money to fund Civ properly.

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They have GTA and now they have Civ. Well, at least they have money to fund Civ properly.


That's the most positive point as far as i can tell.

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Us hardcore fans already sort of knew this for a while, but good to see it's official now...

No more Atari!


What was so bad with Atari?

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It's old name was Activision...

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"push the creative envelope"? meaning what? might not be good.

"unparalleled scope and detail" could and should be very good.

Civ had better remain good for you.

Railroad Tycoon sounds like an OK thing to be associated with. I've had some curiousity about it, but haven't played it.

Even if Atari wasn't the original Atari, I still liked the name being associated with Civ.

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Because Atari is one of those rush-it-just-to-rush-it publishers thats stingy with their cash. Now, wether they'll turn out to be worse then Take-Two or not is hard to say. I've only had experience with a few Take-Two published games, but none of them seemed to get pushed out in bad condition or to be lagging in support, so maybe this change will be good for Firaxis.

It'd be interesting to hear if Firaxis has gotten anymore leeway with this contract then they had with Atari. I don't remember the particulars, but I think someone said they didn't have that great a deal with Atari.

On the other side of things, its nice to hear Civ IV confirmed for late 2005.

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It's old name was Activision...


Aha, I thought it was the original Atari...

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Aha, I thought it was the original Atari...

That's what they wanted people to believe when they changed to that name after getting the right to it.

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It's old name was Activision...


No it's not. Their old name was Infogrames.

Activision is not the greatest publisher ever but they would never even consider sueing their own fans...

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Sorry, I meant Infogrames. I have a tendency to mix those two for some reason... None of them are any good though.

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No it's not. Their old name was Infogrames.

Activision is not the greatest publisher ever but they would never even consider sueing their own fans...

Activision still exists and publish games right?
Have it had any change in owner or anything? I don't think so, but I've not followed so well.

Infogrames is still the concern behind the Atari publisher. It has been taking over companies and titles for some time.

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Bad news .

No Atari is great news, indeed. But we do once again get a publisher that's not the developer. So we get a stupid company who doesn't give a damn about how good the game is. We get a company that sets the release date for developers and wants the game done by then no matter what, very possibly resulting in not enough polish.

I hope this won't be the case, but this is my experience with most publishers so far. I know I'd be glad if Firaxis could publish the game themselves.

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And yeah, Activison is still quite alive. Doom 3 and Call of Duty are their most recent published hits, and the rumor has it they'll have RTCW 2 as well.

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None of them are any good though.


Actually, Activision released the source code for CtP2. I'd say that's a pretty fine act of generosity towards the fans who kept supporting the game all those years

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Activision still exists and publish games right?
Have it had any change in owner or anything? I don't think so, but I've not followed so well.


You kidding me? They're one of the biggest players in the gaming busines...

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Infogrames is still the concern behind the Atari publisher. It has been taking over companies and titles for some time.


Indeed, only a matter of time before they ruined the Atari name completely and change again to start slurring some other formerly great name

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Bad news .

No Atari is great news, indeed. But we do once again get a publisher that's not the developer. So we get a stupid company who doesn't give a damn about how good the game is.


Yes, because publisher being the developer worked so well for the CtP series And the GTA games are so poor and unfinished

I dunno, but maybe you should buy a few games from a publisher before you judge them?

Plus, they couldn't possibly do much worse than Atari

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Yes, because publisher being the developer worked so well for the CtP series And the GTA games are so poor and unfinished

It worked fine with Paradox. Their first game with themselves as publisher(main one that is) is HoI2 and it has been their most polished and finished game so far, by far.

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In other words: games that are self-published can be both good and bad. And games that are not self-published can also be both good and bad. Conclusion: self-publishing is not by definition better or worse than having someone else publish your game.

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Fortunately if civ4 is garbage, there will be many good strategy games out there. Many members of this forum has talked often about MOO, SMAC, and EU. Maybe we should look to those games' decendendants for our fun. I've had 10 good years with civ, and if the party's over, so be it. I still wouldn't count civ4 out yet, hopefully Take-Two is smart enough to keep it as the strategy game it is.

I still remember the bad old days of board games like Risk, and Axis and Allies whre we'd spend much of our time setting up, and counting the resources we'd get for the next turn by hand on even simpler games.

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So true. But I still hope Civ will continue to be a good franchise. I only hope they don't do as Maxis did with SC4; make a game that looks better and have new elements, but ultimately feels like the same game as the predecessors, without the special feel...

EDIT: Hey! I just realized I've been an Emperor for 12 posts already, without me realizing it...!

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You kidding me? They're one of the biggest players in the gaming busines...

Well, I think I saw their logo on Rome Total war when I played that after my brother got it for Christmas. Still I didn't know if it was owned by someone else, or if they did stand on their own legs.

I tell you that the past three years I've lost more and more of my knowledge on ongoing gaming. I've only stayed tune to Civ. For some reason I don't find mush time for more games then I currently have, and am satisfied with playing them. I don't need many more games. Sure a new game can be fun sometimes, but still I wouldn't have time to really put my sole into it.

My newest game is Pirates! and I sure like it, but since I got back from my Christmas holiday I've not had time to play it. Also RCT3 is quite new, and well, I don't have time to sit with it either. It's gone so far that I don't buy a game before I know I'll have at least some time to play it, or it will be better for me to wait until they reduce the price.

But sure a new game in a series that I love as mush as the Civilization series would I probably buy directly, and take myself time to play. But just that I'm addicted to one game doesn't mean I can't stay away from other cool games that I really would want to play, but can't simply find the time to do.

Then there are some games that I definately will buy sometime in the future, when I see time to play them coming. I'm almost as addicted to them as to the civilization games. Some games might actually rise stronger feelings for me than any civgame. Still those games are often in the way that you can take your time to play them, and can take a break without the "just one more turn" syndrom of cvilization. I think it's the "just one more turn" feeling that has extended to "just another game" when it comes to civilization, and I'me realy exited about what new things Firaxis might add to civ to make that desire even stronger (and ruin our lives again).

I think that the only game other than civ that I'd run to buy on releasedate would be a new instance of Colonization. Other games can wait until I have time to play them. And thus keeping myself updated with what the gaming industry does can wait too. When I feel like if I want a new game I just look what games that look interesting, and try to think of games that I wanted to buy, but never had time to, and see what game I decide to buy. Currenlty I have at least one game on my "whishlist" for games to have time to buy and play. As it looks now I might buy it around easter.

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But I was the first.

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...405#post3583405


Ummm, actually I was.

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...561#post3547561

 
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