26-07-2005 09:42									#121
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LOL - yes!!

quote: Elite Crypteia units began assembling at Tegea Harbour to board the SNC Mercury, preparing to set sail for Morgan's eastern seaboard. They will be checking unconfirmed rumours that Hive agents have assassinated the entire Morgan Corporation Board of Directors, those rumours gaining credence as the stony silence from across the Buster Ocean stretches into almost a decade Junta officers, puzzled at the deafening silence that has greeted their recent attempts to normalize relations, considered landing a fast-response amphibious force, similar to the task force assemble for the PTS raid, but felt that this might be too provocative, and settled on calling on Colonel Googlie's experienced Crypteia operatives instead. Stay tuned for progress reports as they investigate whether this is indeed an alarming new development in Hive-Chironian relations, or just an almost-impossible-to-imagine breakdown in Morgan communications equipment

	27-07-2005 09:56									#122
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Do post this somewhere if you haven't already!

	27-07-2005 19:44									#123
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Posted ("Deep in the bowels of the Hive")

	28-07-2005 01:47									#124
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Excellent!
I doubt it will draw many replies though, it's a tense political situation right now. People probably still appreciate the humour though

	28-07-2005 04:39									#125
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What if I reply with that:
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"Sir, a special report for you coming from the ComInt Section. Spartan action in the making, it seems."

The superior briefly skipped through the report then looked back at Mai, his clever assistant. She was still a novice but he didn't miss any opportunity to educate her into the arcanes of intelligence.

"That's clearly related to these rumors of power struggles inside the Junta that we've heard those past months. It seems the Ministry of Infrastructure openly tried to curve the Spartan foreign policy to its own objectives, thus alienating many of the top-brass in the Defence Ministry, much more powerful."

For a young woman bred inside the collective Hiverian education system, all that didn't make sense: "Power struggles between ministries!!! Is it, by chance, some kind of civil war starting?"

"Not for the moment, even if it wouldn't surprise me in a faction stupid enough to run Democracy! The ministries are just pushing their own agenda for Spartan imperialism: remember the Junta lacks a real leader like our beloved Chairman.
From what we learned, the Defence Ministry is the proponent of offensive (sic!) and preventive action. The recent so-called 'peace-keeping operation' in Peacekeeper territory (re-sic!) came directly from their think-tanks.
On the other hand, the Ministry of Infrastructure seeks peaceful developpement to enhance Sparta's industrial power and diplomatic weight. They are firmly opposed to any military adventure, and that's why I think they could have gained ground lately: sending stealth operatives instead of a complete amphibious force is not the usual Spartan way.
Now , do you see the implications for the Hive?"

Mai raised her eyebrows as she always did when considering a problem and began to walk back and forth a couple of seconds before answering.
"It seems pretty evident! Peace between our enemies must be prevented as it would allow them to outpower us later. Moreover, since we are ourselves at war with the Morganites, any vendetta diverting their forces would be welcome. Thus we must thwart the efforts of the builders and lure the hawks in Sparta Command into attacking a tempting prey. If they find Terrapeso in disarray, they'll strike."

She didn't disappoint him.
"Exactly! Write a message for the Director of Central Intelligence along the lines of In case we didn't already assassinate the Morgan Board of Directors, (*damn, those clearances preventing the right hand to know what did the left one!*) the Evaluation Bureau strongly supports a swift operation to do so. More info at our weekly briefing saturday morning. I want it on my desk for 4:00 PM, there's no time to lose!"
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Some crazy roleplay! Next, we'll actually send a probe team to assassinate prominent researchers and frame Yang! At least, they'll think we'll do.
And: "They are firmly opposed to any military adventure, "

	28-08-2005 19:11									#127
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Morgan has asked (in-game, 2185) what techs we can offer for bio-engineering and/or their support for our governorship bid

They have also asked what other support (or abstainers) we have for such a bid.

I suggest we offer them Planetary Economics (they can then build Hybrid Forests) as a 1 for 1 for Bio-engineering. While the techs are at a different level, PE is more valuable to them as they can then immediately follow up their Tree Farm builds with HFs. Of course, we have already built the Ascetic Virtues SP. Bio-eng is less valuable to us as the Longevity Vaccine has already been built, and clean reactors aren't such a priority for Sparta. But it does clear a possible tech roadblock from our beeline.

As regards Governorship - maybe we can offer them Doc: Init for their support (and only Zak is committed to us)

And talking of Zak - we need to get Morgan to contact him and sign a truce, if not a treaty. He's building a noodle, a cruiser transport and a missile amphimarine (altho that base has zero minerals). To what end? - he must be planning an attack on Morgan (how pathetic) - we need him to be building Tree Farms and Research Hospitals

	31-08-2005 02:42									#128
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The list of techs Morgan doesn't have:

Applied Relativity
Advanced Subatomic Theory
Doctrine: Initiative
Cyberethics
Planetary Economics
Adaptive Doctrine

and from next year on:

Advanced Military Algorithms

	31-08-2005 05:36									#129
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Greetings CEO AndiD,

You have requested what techs we would be willing to give for Bio-engineering and planetary governorship support.

In exchange for Bio-engineering, would you be interested in Planetary Economics? This would enable you to follow up tree farms with hybrid forests. It would also increase your commerce rating, which is always useful for a trader such as you.

Regarding planetary governorship, we have only just begun negotiating possible votes for us. Meaning at the moment we only have Zakharovs support. The Angels are behaving rather hostile to us, meaning we probably would require your and Gaian support before it's worth calling elections.

Here is a full list of techs we could offer you:

Applied Relativity
Advanced Subatomic Theory
Doctrine: Initiative
Cyberethics
Planetary Economics
Adaptive Doctrine
Advanced Military Algorithms

And we could pledge support for a global trade pact. But to make a more concrete proposal - one suggested by Colonel Googlie before retiring to the rejuvenation tanks - how would you feel about receiving Doc:Initiative in exchange for planetary governorship support?

There is also another issue I'd like to talk with you about? This last Mission Year Yang faced us with the choice: join him in his war against you, or face a declaration of war against us. As we value good relations with the Corporation, we naturally chose the second option. The large Hivean airforce kinda scares us though. As you have been fighting the Hive for a while now, could I ask: does Yang actually use his airforce, or does it just sit in his bases doing nothing?

On behalf of the Junta,

Colonel Pedro 'Maniac' Riveira

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Does it sound good?

Last edited by Maniac on 01-09-2005 at 04:02

	01-09-2005 18:20									#130
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(again, though, maybe take Applied Relativity off the table)

	02-09-2005 04:17									#131
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Greetings Colonel Maniac,

thank you for your offers, I will pass them on immediately to the Boardroom for a discussion.

quote: ... does Yang actually use his airforce, or does it just sit in his bases doing nothing?

In the first years of war we faced a few air attacks on our territory but they ceased completely since then.

On behalf of the Corporation,
AndiD

	04-09-2005 02:49									#132
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Greetings Colonel Maniac,

the Board is still discussing the Bio-Engineering trade option - you have to understand that Clean Units are a key technology in today's planetary society and we want to make sure to price it adequately.

We are definitely willing to support your Governorship and the Global Trade Pact in exchange for technology though.

However, we think that a trade of Cyberethics may be more beneficial for both our factions than Doc:Init, since a change to a knowledge oriented society would boost our research and therefore our ability to conduct more trade on advanced technology with the Junta in the near future, according to your list on available technology.


On behalf of the Corporation
CEO AndiD

	04-09-2005 11:52									#133
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Sooo, basically, he says "we want a different tech"? Do we care?

	05-09-2005 02:47									#134
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wohooo one step closer to global dominat... ahum... I mean governorship

	05-09-2005 03:59									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Sooo, basically, he says "we want a different tech"? Do we care?

Personally I don't. :shrug:
Though I do find it a bit strange they're considering running Knowledge over Wealth - I'd guess the latter would be more lucrative for the Morganites. Also they already have the Planetary Energy Grid and lots of tree farms - I'd concentrate on credits instead of labs if I were them!

quote: wohooo one step closer to global dominat... ahum... I mean governorship

We'd also need the Gaian vote though, I think. And they haven't replied anything yet.

	05-09-2005 10:19									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Though I do find it a bit strange they're considering running Knowledge over Wealth - I'd guess the latter would be more lucrative for the Morganites. Also they already have the Planetary Energy Grid and lots of tree farms - I'd concentrate on credits instead of labs if I were them!

Mindworm trouble, perhaps?

	14-09-2005 01:31									#137
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I've put MMI as a teaser in the Morganite diplomacy box.

	15-09-2005 06:34									#138
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How about sending something like this to the Corporation?

***

Greetings CEO AndiD,

We still haven't heard anything yet from the Gaians about supporting us for the governor seat, so we can only assume that idea must be declared dead. Alas but little we can do about it.

We're still interested in trading Bio-engineering with you though, at least under the provision Zakharov won't have researched this tech next year. As we have acquired Mind/Machine Interface, which you are currently researching, the Junta is wondering, would you be interested in a MMI for Bioeng trade?

On behalf of the Junta,

Colonel Pedro 'Maniac' Riveira

***

In our turn the Corporation had only two turns to go to research MMI, so the only way a trade could be possible, would be if they put Bioeng in the diplobox this year accepted. Seeing the slow diplomacy, little chance this could happen, but you never know.

	17-09-2005 23:16									#139
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quote: AndiD wrote on 17-09-2005 17:06:15: I will resume the discussion in the Boardroom - it had been postponed last time to wait for the Governor decision.

Glad to hear that. For the record, if I understand correctly, you'll get MMI next year, so I think the only way a deal can still go through if Bioeng is put in the diplobox accepted in your current turn. I have already put MMI in the diplobox in our turn to make sure such a deal possible should you be interested.

Greetings,

Maniac

	19-09-2005 21:12									#140
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quote: Greetings Colonel Maniac, it appears that there was suddenly a second seller of MMI giving a better offer. Due to the time constraints you also mentioned, the Board of Directors hastily agreed to accept that other offer, knowing that you might have more technology in stock. We regret not being able to conduct trade with you this time, but are generally open for future trades though and are looking forward to your next offer. CEO AndiD

	19-09-2005 22:02									#141
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Hihi, and we should keep sending them offers just to read their turn-downs

	19-09-2005 23:02									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Snoddasmannen Hihi, and we should keep sending them offers just to read their turn-downs

Btw, I gave some further thought on the subject.

The Corporation is still researching MMI.
Assuming they're not simply lying to us or ignoring us to keep us isolated like the Angels and Gaians are doing, this means they have a trade deal with the Angels.
Since the Corporation is still researching MMI, this means the Angels didn't just give all their techs to the Gaians and Corporation in a "last stand" to get back at us. So they'd have an actual trade deal. If the trade deal is Bioeng<->MMI just like we proposed, we'd get Bioeng through the Planetary Datalinks next year anyway, and our rival's attempts to isolate us would be pointless.

Oh btw, the Hive captured that Morganite base closest to them. There's a probe foil right next to the base though, so unless the Hive is so smart to sink it, they'll probe the base back again right away.