10-02-2005 13:10									#481
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quote: I didn't have to quote you, moron. It was there for all to see, and you would see it if you weren't so blinded by your own self-righteousness.

But you're the only one who "saw" it. Why didn't everyone else jump in with your "interpretation"? Because maybe they weren't willing to jump to your conveniently self-serving conclusion. Maybe they saw the context and understand the concept of cause and effect. Or maybe they just have more honor. Maybe all three...

quote: Still, I've quoted the bad bit at least 4 times now, but can you ever admit you may have gone off a deep end? I don't think so.

You mis-interpreted the quote, thats why you wont explain where you see moral justification in a cause and effect analysis. Because there is none... But you had already made the accusation and I was asking you to support it and all you had was "pfft". So you "interpreted" a quote and lo and behold, there it was. How convenient...

	10-02-2005 13:17									#482
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Are your eyes brown?

I ask because you seem to be truely full of ****.

	10-02-2005 13:24									#483
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Heres a simple question:

do you believe Waco and Ruby Ridge had absolutely nothing to do with Okla City and McVeigh's mindset?

One more: do you believe the militarisation of law enforcement during the 80s had absolutely nothing to do with how the Feds behaved at Waco and Ruby Ridge?

Oops, 1 more: was the Fed building in Okla City picked out randomly?

This is called "cause and effect". Trying to spin that into a moral justification is fallacious and given your motive to spin it smacks of intellectual dishonesty.

	10-02-2005 13:29									#484
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Why is this stupid thread so long? Some ******* said some stupid things. Whoop-dee-doo.

	10-02-2005 13:29									#485
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It's sort of interesting that you are getting spanked by Aggie, so you seek to change the subject to flames with me.

Are you uneasy that Aggie understands the implications of Libertarianism better than you do? That would be funny.

And btw, the justification for mass murderers is of little interest to me. I undertand you are fixated on 'cause and effect'. That is your weakness.

	10-02-2005 13:34									#486
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quote: Are your eyes brown? I ask because you seem to be truely full of ****.

quote: I find your method of debate to be little better than 6 year-olds on a play ground.

	10-02-2005 13:40									#487
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So you accept that Aggie understands Libertarianism better than you? That is... interesting.

	10-02-2005 13:51									#488
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quote: It's sort of interesting that you are getting spanked by Aggie, so you seek to change the subject to flames with me.

Aggie ain't around, see how cause and effect can be used to reach really simple conclusions? And I'm not the one who started in with the flames... That would be you. Do you think before posting? The hypocrisy coming from you is just stunning... Open mouth, enter foot again.

quote: Are you uneasy that Aggie understands the implications of Libertarianism better than you do? That would be funny.

Nice try, but you haven't been reading our debate so thats your lack of honor speaking again. Choke on that too

quote: And btw, the justification for mass murderers is of little interest to me.

What justification?

quote: I undertand you are fixated on 'cause and effect'. That is your weakness.

9/11 may have been avoided with very little effort. But the people running the show either have a different agenda or they couldn't figure out cause and effect during the 90s when it mattered.

	10-02-2005 13:58									#489
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Berz, you're the one who brought the old thread up, repeatedly. I had to do a search to find out what you were blathering about, because I had largely forgotten about it.

I don't blame you for holding on to it. It was a serious disagreement. I tried to give you an out and make peace. Apparently that was not good enough for you. You demand the opportunity to demonstrate how much of a terrorist **** sucking stooge you are. Far be it from me to deny you your place in the... sun?

Have at 'er, champ.

	10-02-2005 14:01									#490
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quote: So you accept that Aggie understands Libertarianism better than you? That is... interesting.

Nah, what'll be interesting is your interpetation of something I said to support that conclusion. Its becoming quite a pattern with you, but here goes anyways. Can you quote me saying that?

Oh yeah @

See, thats imagination.

	10-02-2005 14:04									#491
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How about the fact you don't seem interested in him and his trashing of your position. You want to make smoke in flames with me. Fair enough, bug. I'm game any time you are. I have only one request. Please bring an argument the next time you decide to make a fool of yourself.

	10-02-2005 14:15									#492
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Come on, Berz, there's only ten more posts to bury this embarassment of yours.

Oops. Nine.

	10-02-2005 14:24									#493
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quote: Berz, you're the one who brought the old thread up, repeatedly. I had to do a search to find out what you were blathering about, because I had largely forgotten about it.

Thats all very nice and everything, but what does that have to do with who started the flames? You started in before me and soon ended up on some rant about how bored you were and how I was responsible. Boohoo

quote: I don't blame you for holding on to it. It was a serious disagreement. I tried to give you an out and make peace. Apparently that was not good enough for you. You demand the opportunity to demonstrate how much of a terrorist **** sucking stooge you are. Far be it from me to deny you your place in the... sun?

Gee, I guess I was just waiting for an apology but thats asking too much I guess. What was this out?

Btw, its rare we get to see someone pwn themself so effectively. I mean, that was Fez-like, so lets see it once more:

quote: Are your eyes brown? I ask because you seem to be truely full of ****.

quote: I find your method of debate to be little better than 6 year-olds on a play ground.

	10-02-2005 14:26									#494
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Seven now, Berz. Your embarassment nears an end.

	10-02-2005 14:33									#495
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Gee, I guess I was just waiting for an apology but thats asking too much I guess. What was this out?

I didn't have to kiss your ass to have wanted peace. Now however, forget it. You're an ******* of massive proportions, and you've earned your Fez. Wear it in good health.

	10-02-2005 14:56									#496
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Scratch that. Very silly of me.

Go ahead and hold a grudge, Berz. Feel free to bring it up time and time again. For me life is too short to be bothered overly much by pinheads like you.

Five.

	10-02-2005 15:09									#497
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An apology is what honorable people offer when they mistakenly throw accusations around and its brought to their attention. I guess you think thats a weakness too. Sad really, how old are you?

Oh, forget it now? Don't you have to think of it before you can forget it? Yeah, let me call you vile things and then we can have peace. What a putz.

	10-02-2005 15:14									#498
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Bullshit, Berz. if you wanted civility, you would have behaved with civility. That's not what you did. You started a flame fest to distract people from the total nakedness of your position in the face of Aggie's criticism.

If you wanted an apology, you would have asked for one and explained how I got it wrong. I probably would have given it to you.

All you have done now is shown how much of an insufferable **** you are. Feel free to carry the grudge forward. I'll welcome people to read how you think McVeigh was simply angry at injustice any time you want to bring it up, pinhead.

Three.

	10-02-2005 15:42									#499
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quote: Scratch that. Very silly of me. Go ahead and hold a grudge, Berz. Feel free to bring it up time and time again. For me life is too short to be bothered overly much by pinheads like you. Five.

You seem awfully anxious for this thread to die.

quote: Bullshit, Berz. if you wanted civility, you would have behaved with civility. That's not what you did. You started a flame fest to distract people from the total nakedness of your position in the face of Aggie's criticism.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Aggie is trashing me after saying you didn't even read our debate (see why you lack credibility?). And what exactly did I do to make you so mad? I said I was waiting for you to accuse Aggie and Kid of "supporting" terrorists? And I said that after you started in with snide comments about me, take a look yourself and you'll see you mentioned me before I mentioned you (cause and effect again, hehe).

Seems reasonable since you accused me of the same thing based on a ridiculous and obviously self-serving "interpretation" of something I said AFTER you threw the accusation out. These guys are quite open about this guilt we have because of our government. No "interpretation" is needed...Just a little consistency from you... But I guess thats too much to expect from someone running on empty in the honor department.

quote: If you wanted an apology, you would have asked for one and explained how I got it wrong. I probably would have given it to you.

I explained how you got it wrong in the old thread and in this one. What do you need, a sledge hammer to fall on your head? And I shouldn't have to ask for an apology, anyone but a putz would know when its time to apologise for slandering others.

quote: All you have done now is shown how much of an insufferable **** you are. Feel free to carry the grudge forward. I'll welcome people to read how you think McVeigh was simply angry at injustice any time you want to bring it up, pinhead.

He wasn't angry at the injustice of Waco and Ruby Ridge? Please tell his family and friends because they got it all wrong. Doh!

	10-02-2005 15:47									#500
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No, Berz, I would need you to grab a clue. I'm afraid you are not going to get an apology for me calling you on being an ******* when you have clearly been an *******.

Call it a failure of my personality if you like, but you're still an *******.

	10-02-2005 16:05									#501
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quote: No, Berz, I would need you to grab a clue. I'm afraid you are not going to get an apology for me calling you on being an ******* when you have clearly been an *******. Call it a failure of my personality if you like, but you're still an *******.

I never asked you to apologise for the failure of your parents to teach you manners, the apology was for your accusation that I support terrorists. Obviously any apology now would be a meaningless gesture since there is no honor backing it up. No honor at all...

Tell you what, just don't mention me in the future and I won't mention the shoelaces sticking out of your generously proportioned mouth.

	10-02-2005 16:07									#502
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Tell you what, Berz, come to grips with excusing McVeigh and then come talk to me.

	10-02-2005 16:11									#503
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And you can say whatever you want, whenever you want. I have that quote. I have you flailing with lame threats. People will judge on thier own what you and I have said.

Are you afraid of the judgement or something?

	10-02-2005 16:19									#504
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Who excused him? He's a mass murderer, but that doesn't mean we can't see the chain of events leading up to his crime. I see it, you don't. Thank God the politicians see it because they sure backed their BATF off from the little rampage they were on at the end of the 80s and early 90s.

Didn't I say I opposed what he did in the last thread? Yes, I believe I did. So are you just lying again or is your memory as short as your...ahem... temper?

	10-02-2005 16:35									#505
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quote: And you can say whatever you want, whenever you want. I have that quote. I have you flailing with lame threats. People will judge on thier own what you and I have said.

You mean the lame threat that exposed your hypocrisy? You don't mouth off to people who can reach your teeth with their knuckles because that would take balls. So you mouth off to people over the internet. Let us applaud your bravery, a sight to be seen by young and old alike...

quote: Are you afraid of the judgement or something?

Not sure what the judgement is, but since it sounds biblical, I'm not worried about God mis-interpreting my posts, God isn't dumb. And you're the one trying to bury this thread with spam. Hell, you even started a countdown. I just dont like you and you dont like me so whats the point in trying to debate anything?

	10-02-2005 17:52									#506
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Who excused him? He's a mass murderer, but that doesn't mean we can't see the chain of events leading up to his crime.

I see that he fell for some stupid right wing extremist crap and lost his marbles.

	10-02-2005 18:00									#507
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Over 500... bye bye...