07-02-2005 00:10									#1
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The other thread is above 500, so I'll create another one for your viewing and posting pleasure. We were recently talking about SOU, and the battle with J'nah.

	07-02-2005 00:11									#2
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I replied in the other thread.

	07-02-2005 01:16									#3
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First time I fought her I managed to disrupt her spell when she was casting her fire aura spell. Didnt know at the time how lucky I was, then she took me apart with lightning bolts. Every other time I got roasted by her aura

Im suprised at how big the fights get in HotU already. I gained 2 levels in that hall of the kings

	07-02-2005 01:45									#4
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I breezed through J'nai.

Snotty, wait until the end.

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	07-02-2005 10:36									#5
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I just got NWN platinum edition, it includes NWN with both expansion packs. I've been playing the original campaign for a while now. I like it so far. My henchman, a death worshiping monk, kicks ass. But he can be irritating at times. Why can't I give him potions? Why can't he carry stuff around?

	07-02-2005 10:38									#6
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Because in the original game, henchmen couldn't carry stuff.

place a potion on his picture and he will drink it.

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	07-02-2005 10:58									#7
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Some questions about fan-made modules. After downloading one, in what folder do I put it? In the "modules" folder?

Are modules made for older versions of the game compatible with newer versions? Can I play, for example, a SOU-1.61 module like excrucio eternum with my version of NWN, which is 1.65? Or do I have to make sure that the module was made for 1.65?

	07-02-2005 10:59									#8
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quote: place a potion on his picture and he will drink it.

Good to know!

	07-02-2005 12:58									#9
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I just got NWN platinum edition, it includes NWN with both expansion packs. I've been playing the original campaign for a while now. I like it so far. My henchman, a death worshiping monk, kicks ass. But he can be irritating at times. Why can't I give him potions? Why can't he carry stuff around?

Yeah it's annoying. SoU has henchman inventory though.

And as Tubby said, potions do work.

	07-02-2005 12:59									#10
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I loved NWN until I got tired of killing zombies in endless waves to obtain an item to finish a quest so I could start another quest where I had to kill zombies in endless waves to obtain an item to finish the quest so I could start another...and so on and so on.

	07-02-2005 17:18									#11
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I sort of cheated my way throught the J'nah fight with my ranger/assassin. I went to visit the hermit outside the caves and bought the wizard robes that protect against electrical attacks, which meant that I hardly took any damage from her lightning spells. Then I kicked her arse with the short sword I took from the ice kobolds' lair.
I'm up to the interlude now with ranger (6), assassin (1), wizard (1), and have just gone though the fight with the scorpion men right at the beginning, but done little else. The duchess is away again this evening, so I ought to get quite a bit more done.
"Any last words?" "How about.... phylactery!!!"
It is a pretty cool thing though. If I had kept it, can you use it in other fights, to turn yourself into a frost giant when you need to?

	07-02-2005 22:43									#12
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo Some questions about fan-made modules. After downloading one, in what folder do I put it? In the "modules" folder? Are modules made for older versions of the game compatible with newer versions? Can I play, for example, a SOU-1.61 module like excrucio eternum with my version of NWN, which is 1.65? Or do I have to make sure that the module was made for 1.65?

Yes, put it in the "modules" folder, and any haks in the "Haks" folder, then start the module by clicking on New, then Other Modules.

And Yes, most mods are backwards compatible (with a few exceptions)

-Jam

	08-02-2005 00:04									#13
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anybody have a problem with the movies and cutscenes at the start of chapter 2 in SOU. For some reason it malfunctions on my computer. This is the same computer I had last June when I played SOU. Although maybe I had problems last June, but cannot remember.

The movies starts freezing up, then the load screen comes up, it takes forever to load, and eventually the game stops responding. ctrl-alt-delete notes the game is not responding.

Eventually I got through it by quickly hitting escape during the movie and the cutscene. I don't have any problems with any of the other movies or cutscenes. Strange. The only thing different is I updated to 1.65 version.

	08-02-2005 00:08									#14
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo Some questions about fan-made modules. After downloading one, in what folder do I put it? In the "modules" folder? Are modules made for older versions of the game compatible with newer versions? Can I play, for example, a SOU-1.61 module like excrucio eternum with my version of NWN, which is 1.65? Or do I have to make sure that the module was made for 1.65?

yep those modules are good. There are 2 eternum scenearios. I recommend them. They are pretty good. The 2nd one is even better than the first (though less voice acting).

You can run mods made for the older versions of the game. And yes put them in your module folder. Read the read me that comes with the module. It will have instructions. Many modules have a hak pack. The hak files go in the hak folder. Also some modules have music and movies. And I believe Eterunum does. They go in the music and movies folders. The readme will tell you which ones. It's kind of a pain at first, but you get used to it. It's worth it to play great fan made scenarios.

often what I'll do is unzip them to it's own folder. And then manually drag the appropiate files to the appropiate folders. That way, I'm sure nothing gets "lost". Or just unzip them to your desktop, and drag the hak files to the hak folder, and the movie files (I can't remember the extention- the readme will say) to the movie folder, etc.

	08-02-2005 00:19									#15
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Turn undead! I sort of cheated my way throught the J'nah fight with my ranger/assassin. I went to visit the hermit outside the caves and bought the wizard robes that protect against electrical attacks, which meant that I hardly took any damage from her lightning spells.

Nice.

	08-02-2005 00:30									#16
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buying wiziard robes is not cheating. good thinking.

	08-02-2005 00:30									#17
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Btw chaps, who has played SoU or HotU with 2 human players co-op? Do you both get to build your chars? With HotU the game is set for 3 so does it all work fine?

	08-02-2005 00:33									#18
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I have played SOU with my brother. Both the original campaign and SOU is supposed to be compatible with multiplayer. And I played both campaigns in multiplayer, and I'll say it works pretty good.

HOTU is a little trickier. That game was intended to be played single player. And there are some areas that are tough to get through if you aren't the party leader. They used to have a multiplayer workaround thread in the bioware forums for HOTU. It used to be a topped sticky thread, it still may be topped. I have never played it multiplayer though, so I can't say how well it works.

	08-02-2005 00:35									#19
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Why is HotU tricky and SoU not tricky?

	08-02-2005 00:37									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Why is HotU tricky and SoU not tricky?

just the way they designed it. I think HOTU has some special scripting and triggers that only seems to affect the party leader. There is supposed to be an item that allows you to teleport to the party leader that allows you to bypass some gates that only the party leader can pass through.

	08-02-2005 00:40									#21
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here's the multiplayer workaound therad.

http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewt...285858&forum=82

it says you need something like the stone of recall to get the party around.

	08-02-2005 01:02									#22
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Thanks.

So in MP no one is party leader?

	08-02-2005 01:06									#23
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We had a few nasty crashes in HOTU with a party with three players doing co-op, and the end of Chapter 2 was so bugged that the one with the server had to use a cheat code to get us to the start of Chapter 3. Didn't miss much, but the end of Chapter 2 was pretty awful in that sense.

	08-02-2005 01:14									#24
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Thanks for the info!

	08-02-2005 03:26									#25
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Yeah reading the thread Diss linked to I wont be trying HotU co-op, and we are already nearly finished with SoU.

Lame that they made it this way.

	08-02-2005 03:36									#26
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yeah but reading the last page of that thread, some people can get pretty far in the game. It still might be worth playing in multiplayer. It looks like the most problems came at the end of chapter 1, the end of chapter 2, and near the end of chapter 3 when someone teleports you to another location (the rest of the party doesn't get teleported).

	08-02-2005 04:11									#27
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Nah, I really don't want to play it co-op after reading all the crap you have to go through.

	08-02-2005 17:31									#28
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I hardly played very much at all last night.
The stingers are bloody annoying though - every time you're about to kill one, they disappear back into the sand. That's not funny! I only remembered this morning, that I've still got the Staff of Power I took from J'nah, so I might try that out next time I play (Monday night , but we're going away for the weekend so ).
Even more annoying, when we were in the tunnels killing stingers, my character got stuck between the stupid fat dwarf girl and the wall, and I had to reload because it wouldn't let me out! I've got a dexterity of 17, and I can't squeeze around a dwarf!

	08-02-2005 22:14									#29
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hit ~, type DebugMode 1, move cursor to open spot and hit the + key, hit ~ again, type DebugMode 0.

That should fix the problem.

ACK!

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	08-02-2005 22:29									#30
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Take Deekin as a henchman instead.