11-02-2005 03:21									#31
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I'm hoping Smiley will GM this GO again, as his graphics are awesome.

-Jam

	11-02-2005 04:53									#32
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Since ther's not much interest in Society VII, I'll do GO #8. It will be graphically enhanced also, but in a different way.

	11-02-2005 05:02									#33
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YAY!

* Kassiopeia trepidates

You do realize that if there's a choice between Society and graphically enhanced GO, the choice is rather obvious (for me at least)?

	11-02-2005 06:11									#34
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So, is it now GEGO?

	11-02-2005 08:02									#35
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I'm confused ... when do we start putting the little black or white pieces on the board? And when do we choose black or white ...

	11-02-2005 11:43									#36
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I'd like to join. I have no opinions on these issues, as I haven't played yet.

	11-02-2005 18:49									#37
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Jaguar??

	11-02-2005 19:07									#38
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18 players!

Or 17 players and one GM, depending on how things go. Should be a good game, hopefully one to rival the current game of GO.

	11-02-2005 19:17									#39
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Yes, the current game is the best so far. It's very dynamic and bloody, though slightly less treacherous.

	11-02-2005 19:17									#40
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Yes, the current game is the best so far. It's very dynamic and bloody, though slightly less treacherous.

	11-02-2005 22:05									#41
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I heard you the first time...

	11-02-2005 23:52									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Since ther's not much interest in Society VII, I'll do GO #8. It will be graphically enhanced also, but in a different way.

	12-02-2005 00:20									#43
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People just cannot resist the backstabbery of GO with the graphics of Smiley

-Jam

	12-02-2005 03:08									#44
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Jaguar??

OMFFG it's the GeoModder!

	12-02-2005 11:59									#45
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Graphical enhancements currently planned for GO 8:

+ Avatars, with story and dialogue

= Battle maps

- no more graphical data table- it's too big and takes too long to update- instead I'll printscreen the spreadsheet

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So far as the new rules, here's how I plan to handle Maneuver and Disengage:

Maneuver- you have no attack value and you take double damage

No ships of a certain type- you take normal damage based on enemy weapon type (There's really not much practical difference between 1 fighter frigate and none against a lot of torpedoes)

Disengage- as Jamski proposed, your fleet leaves and does not deal or take any damage.

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Looking at the player list, the following were in VII, anyone know if they are interested in VIII? Some of them barely got to play the game before they were eliminated

Exodus Phoenix
Gamecube 64
Moron
Paddy the Scot
Sparrowhawk
Theben

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The current game looks like it's got a couple more turns left in it. Therefore the first round of GO VIII will be scheduled to begin one week from now around the 18th or 19th.

	12-02-2005 12:03									#46
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Interested, yes.

Able to play, no.

Going to be watching closely to see how it turns out, definitely

* Sparrowhawk

	12-02-2005 12:18									#47
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* joncha liked the graphical data table.

	12-02-2005 12:34									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar OMFFG it's the GeoModder!

* GeoModder reserves 45 GO threads solely to accommodate Jag.

	12-02-2005 16:02									#49
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I want in....nuff said

1. B
2. A (for truely chaotic battles)
3. C

quote: Maneuver- you have no attack value and you take double damage

This look really dangerous and probably won't be used much, as 2x damage hurt more than +50% attack. I don't see it used too much outside of using it as a surprise tactic against homogeneous fleets.

How about have maneuver allow a fleet to "shift" tactics during a fight rather than +attack. For example, a fleet can start out with "back off, bunch up", than after one turn of maneuver it can fight with "close in, normal"

	12-02-2005 16:11									#50
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In the last game, there was almost no spy usage whatsoever compared to the other stuff of the same catagory. (shield, attack, whatever)

I think the system needs a overhaul....maybe we can have spies build out of bp as opposed to special command. Or we can have 2 spies build per turn, and 1 spies is required to defend against any number enemy spy per turn, and spies can be used for defense on the turn it is build. (to prevent spy lockdown)

In anycase, spies needs to be made better or be taken out....

	12-02-2005 16:14									#51
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quote: Originally posted by joncha * joncha liked the graphical data table.

Well feel free to make one when Smiley posts the data.

	12-02-2005 20:32									#52
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couldn't you automate the table with a small program of some sort? The table rocks.

Also, I agree, manuver resulting in double damage taken by you is massive. Especially since it's completely unopposed. Imagine this: 2 laser fleets, both closed in, one manuvers... and gets 8X damage against it.

	12-02-2005 23:11									#53
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Avatars with story and dialogue.

	12-02-2005 23:39									#54
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I fail to see the advantage of Manoeuvring, if the only thing you got from it is extra damage.

	13-02-2005 00:42									#55
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Atragon: I only know text-based programming- if anyonehere knows how to write a GUI, you're more than welcome to take it on.

On maneuvering: There is a use for maneuvering if you've got an all-laser fleet. Since you'd have a nil slot anyway for one of the first three shots, you might as well maneuver, and deal 12x damage to your opponent in the above situation.

	13-02-2005 01:02									#56
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Well feel free to make one when Smiley posts the data.

Maybe I will. Maybe I will.

	13-02-2005 01:41									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley On maneuvering: There is a use for maneuvering if you've got an all-laser fleet. Since you'd have a nil slot anyway for one of the first three shots, you might as well maneuver, and deal 12x damage to your opponent in the above situation.

Where does the 12x damage suddenly comes from? And first you need to undergo double damage yourself before your lasers can fire again in the second round.

Also, if lasers receive such a possible advantage, on top of the closing in feature, why don't fighters and torps get their own benefit on top of spreading out and close formation?

	13-02-2005 01:42									#58
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Spy use was once quite common, and was percieved as too powerful. So, the anti-spy device was introduced.

Next game, players will only get one of the anti-spy goodie instead of two. Maybe that'll increase spy usefulness.

Or, should the thing be made buildable rather than a freebie?

	13-02-2005 01:45									#59
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I think 2 games with the anti-spy device is not enough testing. The first game it was used it showed it's merit, and with all the succesfull newbies in this game spying just didn't came to their attention.

	13-02-2005 02:32									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Atragon: I only know text-based programming- if anyonehere knows how to write a GUI, you're more than welcome to take it on. On maneuvering: There is a use for maneuvering if you've got an all-laser fleet. Since you'd have a nil slot anyway for one of the first three shots, you might as well maneuver, and deal 12x damage to your opponent in the above situation.

I think it would be trivial to write such a program in Excel - I could try to do such if you could send me a copy of the spreadsheet so I have an idea of what I'm working on. Heck, I might even be able to use some of your graphics, especially if you have them in individual form (ie a gif/jpeg of just a laser, just a torp., etc.)

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