10-02-2005 03:27									#1
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Firstly, we need to decide some proposed rule changes.

Issue 1
a) Allow using a shield AND attacking on the same turn
b) Continue as now, shield OR attack

Issue 2
a) Allow multiple attacks
b) Attacks against only one opponent each turn

Issue 3
a) Shields do 12 hits of damage per attacking fleet (alliance fleets have damage spread out amongst them)
b) Shields do 12 hits of damage per attacker (each member of an alliance fleet gets 12 hits damage)
c) Shields destroy 10% of an attacking fleet
d) Shields destroy 20% of an attacking fleet

Issue 4 (No need to vote on this one - it was voted on during the previous game)
a) No attacking on turn 1 - It is a prebuild round


Now, the usual stuff.
GM: Smiley!


Players
Skanky Burns
Vlad Antlerkov
Kassiopeia
Atragon
paramir
DrSpike
Jonny
GeoModder
snoopy369
Ljube-ljcvetko
Lord Nuclear
Spaced Cowboy
joncha
Hercules
Sandman
Jamski
Jaguar
[Exodus] Pheoni
Paddy the Scot

Sign up here, and please add your votes to the Issues outlined above.

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 16-02-2005 at 17:24

	10-02-2005 03:36									#2
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I'm in...

1) As currently.
2) Abstain/whatever leads to more bloodshed.
3) C

	10-02-2005 03:55									#3
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I forgot to vote. Heh.

1) B
2) B
3) C

	10-02-2005 04:05									#4
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I am in.

1) B
2) B
3) C

Oh, and if Smiley doesn't GM I'm going to cry.

	10-02-2005 04:15									#5
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1b, 2b, 3e (10% damage per attacker.)

I'm in.

	10-02-2005 04:19									#6
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I'm in
as i have no experience il leave the decisions to you guys

	10-02-2005 04:34									#7
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In.

Read rules later.

	10-02-2005 04:38									#8
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In!

1) B
2) B
3) C

	10-02-2005 05:49									#9
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Présent... Lasers!!

In thus.

and I vote B.A.C. (Belgische Alpinisten Club )

	10-02-2005 06:24									#10
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In.

And I'd be all for the British Broadcasting Corporation televising the results.

	10-02-2005 06:52									#11
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B, B, and B

The current system of constant shield damage discourages attacking early, while making players more willing to take the plunge late game.
Having it per ally will discourage those first-round conquests.

Jam also metnioned three new changes in Combat v1.4, including the following:

50% more hitpoints per ship (Frigate is now 3 hits, for instance)
Maneuvering (adds 50% to next weapon)
Disengage (abandon home bases midway through a battle)

	10-02-2005 07:02									#12
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Jam's combat changes are fine.

I vote:

1) B
2) B
3) C

in spite of Smiley's quite eloquent argument.

However, shields are pretty useless late in the game. We'll see if this change will make them worthwhile.


And I'm in off course.
And Jam, your Napoleonic game has great potentials. The tactical options are superb!

	10-02-2005 07:12									#13
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In, of course.

1) B
2) B
3) C

	10-02-2005 07:18									#14
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AAC,in

	10-02-2005 07:31									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Atragon 1b, 2b, 3e (10% damage per attacker.) I'm in.

Pretty sure 10% of the fleet and 10% per attacker work out to the same thing. Unless the 10% per fleet is distributed unevenly?

	10-02-2005 07:50									#16
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What about f) shields destroy entire attacking fleet, and then expand to capture the attacker's bases?

	10-02-2005 08:13									#17
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In and...

1) b

2) b

3) b

4) a

	10-02-2005 08:48									#18
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In

and

B
B
B

	10-02-2005 10:04									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley What about f) shields destroy entire attacking fleet, and then expand to capture the attacker's bases?

, but if successful, the person who use the shield should gain another one.

	10-02-2005 10:16									#20
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quote: shields destroy entire attacking fleet, and then expand to capture the attacker's bases?

How about a new action called win it's efect is:you win, that would be almost as balanced

	10-02-2005 11:29									#21
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not only that, but it gives you an extra vote in Mafia.

	10-02-2005 12:18									#22
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I'm in. BBC.

	10-02-2005 17:24									#23
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Votes as they stand:
Issue 1
a 1
b 13

Issue 2
a 2
b 11

Issue 3
a
b 3
c 10
d
e 1

Seems pretty much decided at this point.

	10-02-2005 18:27									#24
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In, and BBC.

I also assume we're using Combat v1.4 (more HP, manouvre and disengage)

Link in my sig.

-Jam

	10-02-2005 20:16									#25
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There are still some issues to be resolved with Manouvre and Disengage. Specifically:

Do weapons do 1x or 2x damage against a Manouvre order?

Is damage taken during a disengage round?

	10-02-2005 20:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley There are still some issues to be resolved with Manouvre and Disengage. Specifically: Do weapons do 1x or 2x damage against a Manouvre order?

Unopposed attacks do double damage. This doesn't apply vs Manouvre orders though or they would be totally unprofitable.

quote: Is damage taken during a disengage round?

Nope. Combat stops at the disengage point.

-Jam

	10-02-2005 20:52									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Unopposed attacks do double damage. This doesn't apply vs Manouvre orders though or they would be totally unprofitable.

Hmm, in that case I could have a single-weapon fleet, and just stick M's in all the other slots, such as MLL-MMM. This effectively makes a single weapon fleet 50% stronger.

Unopposed attacks doing double damage can easily be blocked by a lone frigate.

	11-02-2005 00:57									#28
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	11-02-2005 02:23									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Hmm, in that case I could have a single-weapon fleet, and just stick M's in all the other slots, such as MLL-MMM. This effectively makes a single weapon fleet 50% stronger. Unopposed attacks doing double damage can easily be blocked by a lone frigate.

True, I'm being dumb Unopposed attacks will always do double damage then, even vs M orders.

-Jam

	11-02-2005 03:08									#30
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Are you going to GM this GO, Jamski? If so, will you do it Graphically Enhanced?