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Originally posted by kronic
Ehm...no, actually it's not. Are you from Bavaria?
Noone is forced to receive a religious education. You can normally choose beetween "Ethics" and a religious education.
Bavaria is different from the rest of Germany. They even pray in the morning and there are a lot of crucifixes in every public school. They are way backward... |
Nope, NRW.
But it was 12 Years ago when I made my Abitur so things might have changed.
When I went to school AFAIK there never were any ethics courses;
if you were protestant you automatically went to protestant RelEd, if you were catholic youi received catholic RelEd and muslims were taught seperately by religious teachers of their belief (and had the hour where everyone else had Rel-Ed free).
But of course it is possible that also to this time your parents could go to the school administration and get their son/daughter out of religion classes.
But I never heard that anyone in my class (or parallel classes) did so.
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Dec 2001
time: 07:26
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Re: Original question:Yes! 
Re: Pekka:
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Originally posted by Pekka
 some of you guys had some 'awesome' teachers
We had a great one... I thought of him as the best teacher in school. Our religion classes were the opposite of religious. It was very.. it's tough to say, his approach was so great. He was funny, I mean genuinely funny dude and smart. I think highly of him even today. We went through all the major and some not-so-major religions and took the same approach on them all. It was definitely NOT Christian biased classes. We didn't whip out the bible, not a single time. The only thing we talked about bible was when he taught us how it was made, who wrote it and how it was put together. That's it. We took more like a global look at religion, and sociological one. It was pretty interesting, plus he made it interesting so most of us enjoyed it in fact.
He also came up with his own remarks about some of the loopholes in all religions etc, and of course the victims of religions of all religions by war or by monsterous religious leaders etc. And also psychological victims of religions. Hey we even had Scientology. SO that's how seriously the religious side was religious. It was more .. like history classes. But he was still tasteful always, while making total fun of all religions, he never .. talked them down. We were taught to respect them all, by knowing what they are about, and how much they are alike, and how they all have their loopholes, and how they all this and that. We were taught by example, but more from sociological and historical point of view. We even had atheist approach. It was religion, in its pure form. Not about religion as in believing in something.
We took a look at most things in religion, also in their architecture at times, he once brought his vacation pics from all around the world and we looked at the buildings from different regions, it was fun. Once he took out a guitar, and we were like 'oh damn what's this', but he just started singing the OTHER songs like Bruce Springsteen's born in the usa!
But yeah, while being funny and mostly making us laugh, and beating on religions, he also taught about them so we were left with knowledge of religions, their similarities and differencies, histories etc, unbiased and respectfully. It's too bad some of you have had bad experiences.. I wouldn't want a fundie teaching my class. That's exactly what it isn't supposed to be.
Furthermore, I feel they were great classes, that should be considered as basic information for civilized people. It builds tolerance and mutual respect and understanding. It's cultural thing. Of course if you have some whacko teaching it, then it's just a waste of time and scaring people and christian mongering. that's what it's not about in here, in the mandatory classes.
I remember doing 3 presentations. One was of Rastafaris, major point being the weed of course, one I did from Wiccas, and one from.. Satanism. So there's your 'YOU GO TO HELL IF YOU DON'T TAKE THIS AS THE TRUTH!' type of classes.. at least we didn't. |
You're a living success story of this kind of education, aren't you?
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:26
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
True. It's a small part of the social studies curriculum. However, we do learn about all the important parts of the 'major' religions other than Christianity. It seems to me that the basics of Christianity ought to be taught, if they are also teaching Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Confucianism, etc.
The assumption made that most kids are already familiar with the basic teachings of Christianity is false, given the general secularism of Canadian society. |
I seem to recall getting just about the same amount of information regarding Christianity - namely learning about Catholicism vs Protestantism, Martin Luther and what some of the primary differences among the various Christian denominations are. A glossing over, to be sure, but no more so than for any other religion.
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Pyrodrew
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
No chapels? No cathedrals? |
I never said that.
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12-02-2005 23:23
Indeed you can just do the exam and resist propoganda aspects of it
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