11-02-2005 03:07									#1
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Yup, i bought it. Saw a used copy for $5 US - at that price I couldnt resist, and it was a good excuse to stop playing Settlers2


I havent really gotten into a game of this type since I played AOE. Im not a huge RTS fan.

Im through the first couple of Terran campaign scenarios.

The actual gameplay seems rather simplistic so far, in terms of resources, units, etc. But then this is a learning campaign, I think, and Im comparing it to the relatively sophisticated AOE.

I really like the way the game tells its story, and the way that story is focused on individuals - you feel like this is the outpost of an empire, not the ENTIRE empire like in AOE. More credible and immersive in that respect. Overcomes the standard RTS gameplay. And oh yeah, the cutscene of the guys in the truck was cool.

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	11-02-2005 03:28									#2
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It's getting on now, but still noteable as the first game that made a very good job of providing 3 very different but balanced races. The campaign was also a step up from the norm upon release.

Most of it's reputation is built on MP though. The number of people that still play a game that old is unbelievable. A true classic.

	11-02-2005 03:34									#3
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I wonder what a Starcraft II would be like.

	11-02-2005 03:56									#4
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One day we will know.

	11-02-2005 03:58									#5
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You think they'll actually make a sequel?

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[QUOTE] Originally posted by DrSpike

quote: It's getting on now, but still noteable as the first game that made a very good job of providing 3 very different but balanced races. The campaign was also a step up from the norm upon release.

One reason i havent bothered with others - i only play SP.

	11-02-2005 03:59									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear You think they'll actually make a sequel?

apparently there was just an article in the NYT about how Blizzard has massively increased its work force to handle World of Warcraft. I think they'll take some time absorbing that change, before they make a major new game.

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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear You think they'll actually make a sequel?

I would stake a lot of money on it.

	11-02-2005 04:15									#9
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LotM did you get the expansion pack with it? Called brood war or something

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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I would stake a lot of money on it.

It's been seven years, so why nothing for so long?

	11-02-2005 04:51									#11
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I recently got back into starcraft. I had to force myself to uninstall the game twice (I deleted the broodwars iso the second time so I wouldn't just reinstall it the next day) in order to stop playing it.

Too damn addictive.

	11-02-2005 04:55									#13
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As for StarCraft 2.... you would think it's inevitable, but Blizzard seems to be working on Diablo 3 now and before WoW they said that their next game was going to take place in a new universe (and then went back on their word, but regardless... it shows that they do want to move on) so it doesn't seem that likely anymore.

I don't think they could ever live up to the original, anyways. There's no way they could make such a perfect game again... especially if you consider what WarCraft 3 turned out to be.

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Starcraft 2 will happen, probably after Diablo 3.

And WC3 is hugely successful by any reasonable metric. It sold bagloads. Sure some prefer the 'pure' RTS approach, but I think there is room for both. So do the 100,000s of active players almost 2 and a half years after release.

Additionally, the pro RTS circuit outside of South Korea focuses on WC3, and rightly so, till SC2 comes out.

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quote: Originally posted by Snotty LotM did you get the expansion pack with it? Called brood war or something

No, when SC alone was a little more costly the combo pack, sold new, looked appealing. At this price I can later buy the xpack alone if i want to, and its still not a bad deal.

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so i take it space flight happens only in cutscene, and the game is on the surface and "normal" aviation?

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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark so i take it space flight happens only in cutscene, and the game is on the surface and "normal" aviation?

Basically, although there is a space platform terrain set where the land is made of metal platofrms floating in space.

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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Starcraft 2 will happen, probably after Diablo 3. And WC3 is hugely successful by any reasonable metric. It sold bagloads. Sure some prefer the 'pure' RTS approach, but I think there is room for both. So do the 100,000s of active players almost 2 and a half years after release. Additionally, the pro RTS circuit outside of South Korea focuses on WC3, and rightly so, till SC2 comes out.

"Success" has little to do with perfection.


Everyone I know, whether they like WC3 or not, tends to hold StarCraft in higher regard.

	12-02-2005 11:32									#19
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A little something to add to you SP enjoyment: http://www.campaigncreations.org/

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Everyone I know, whether they like WC3 or not, tends to hold StarCraft in higher regard.

I hear you on that. But come on now, there is a world of difference between this statement, and the implication of your original statement that I took issue with:

quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I don't think they could ever live up to the original, anyways. There's no way they could make such a perfect game again... especially if you consider what WarCraft 3 turned out to be.

Sure some (like you) will always prefer Starcraft, and that's fine, but most reasonable players (like me) like both, and appreciate what Blizzard added to the genre in WC3. In my experience nearly all WC3 players who were the right age were SC addicts. And, as I said, the game has received acceptance in the pro community (though you might not have been aware of this) and has been very successful under a wide range of definitions.

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What, there are ppl that visit game forums that don't play Starcraft!? *nukes LOTM*

It is strange why a game with so little tricks could be so popular and great.....the TAers would never understand....

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quote: Originally posted by MORON What, there are ppl that visit game forums that don't play Starcraft!? *nukes LOTM*

Um, he's playing it now.

	12-02-2005 19:35									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MORON What, there are ppl that visit game forums that don't play Starcraft!? *nukes LOTM*

* DinoDoc has a Lurker kill the Ghost before the nuke can launch

	12-02-2005 21:18									#24
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Basically, although there is a space platform terrain set where the land is made of metal platofrms floating in space.

which is where Civ TOT's sci fi game got the idea from, I suppose.

	12-02-2005 21:21									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc A little something to add to you SP enjoyment: http://www.campaigncreations.org/

If i still want to keep playing after ive done with the included campaigns, I might try that. Of course there are included scenarios as well (I think) and i might want to try SP skirmish. As i found with AOE, theres plenty of replayability in one of these games if its well done, even without MP. Of coure AOE may have been emulating SC in that respect.

	13-02-2005 05:57									#26
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Age of Empires predates Starcraft, If I remember correctly.

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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Age of Empires predates Starcraft, If I remember correctly.

I don't think you do.

EDIT: Seems that Starcraft was in 98 and AoE 97, afterall. I was pretty certain it was released afterwards though, for some reason. *shrug*

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I tried Starcraft, AoE and AoK. They didn't keep my attention too long. I don't really know why. Maybe they're not epic enough for my tastes. But if you ask me, Starcraft is definitively the better game. Imo, it has more depth than AoE or AoK.

Blizzard is also working on Ghost, a console game based on the Starcraft universe. At first, they delegated the project to another developer. But they weren't satisfied with what they were doing so decided to do it themselves.

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I don't think you do. EDIT: Seems that Starcraft was in 98 and AoE 97, afterall. I was pretty certain it was released afterwards though, for some reason. *shrug*

It's probably because the face of AOE is AOE2, which was much bigger MP than AOE, and came after SC.

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Starcraft was the best on-line RTS multiplayer game I ever played (but then that isn't saying much given I can't recall playing any other RTS on-line games). If they made Starcraft 2 I would buy it pending no bad reviews.