17-02-2005 21:08									#1
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I don't mean any big conversation with God. I mean things like blessings for the food, thanksgiving (thanks for the fact no one got hurt in that accident), help (please help me past this test)

stuff like that (can include forgiveness as well, you can see the difference though right?)

Jon Miller

	17-02-2005 21:12									#2
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what about .2 or .3?

	17-02-2005 21:17									#3
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It'll need a prayer to stop 'zero' winning this poll on Apolyton.

	17-02-2005 21:18									#4
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I'm curious about people who vote the first option.

	17-02-2005 21:20									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist I'm curious about people who vote the first option.

er....me I never pray so I put zero.

Why should i pick the last option and put myself in a fundies pidgeonhole?

	17-02-2005 21:22									#6
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I said 4, but it is probably more like 8

I always pray for God to bless the food (and there are multiple meals...)

generally pray for forgivness at least once a day

and usually there are others as well..

Jon Miller

	17-02-2005 21:23									#7
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prayer is proof there isn't intelligent life on this planet...

	17-02-2005 21:25									#8
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basically 0 is you might/have pray(ed), but it is well below .1 a day (like once a year forexample)

the last option is you would never even think of praying...

Jon Miller

	17-02-2005 21:26									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Sava prayer is proof there isn't intelligent life on this planet...

Whats the quote? Something like 'religion is a mild form of mental illness'. Good quote.

	17-02-2005 21:27									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller basically 0 is you might/have pray(ed), but it is well below .1 a day (like once a year forexample) the last option is you would never even think of praying... Jon Miller

Then I need to change my vote, call a mod!!!!!

	17-02-2005 21:33									#11
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Last option. It would never cross my mind.

	17-02-2005 21:37									#12
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My time here is too short to be wasted.

	17-02-2005 21:40									#13
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quote: Originally posted by dejon My time here is too short to be wasted.

Says someone posting in the 'Poly OTF.

	17-02-2005 21:40									#14
	Re: How many times per day do you pray? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I don't mean any big conversation with God. I mean things like blessings for the food, thanksgiving (thanks for the fact no one got hurt in that accident), help (please help me past this test) stuff like that (can include forgiveness as well, you can see the difference though right?) Jon Miller

Well I SHOULD be praying 3 times a day, plus before and after each meal, plus on awakening, on going to bed, and on several other occasions, not counting spontaneous prayers.

In fact, its much less than that. I pray every saturday in synagogue. Occasionally I join the mincha minyan - the saturday afternoon prayers - usually only if im roped in to make the prayer quorom. And every friday night - even if i dont go to shul, I say prayers over wine and bread. And sometimes remember to say grace after meals. I rarely attend a daily service, though I sometime attend the shul morning service on Sunday when I bring POTM to religious school. I rarely say the prescribed daily prayers at home. Other than on Friday and Saturday, i usually dont say the meal related prayers, but sometimes do. Oh, and we often say Havdalah, the prayers that end shabbat - its one of our lovelier rituals.

And yes, i sometime pray spontaneously, but my unorthodox theology complicates that somewhat.

	17-02-2005 21:48									#15
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Load of old claptrap. No prayer here, surprisingly...

	17-02-2005 21:49									#16
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good adventists also generally pray at awakening and sleeping, and special on the Sabbath (but there is nothing formal)

also there is generally a number of prayers at church

but I am not very active (as I said, I probably am more like8 than 4...)

Jon Miller

	17-02-2005 21:51									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Says someone posting in the 'Poly OTF.

	17-02-2005 21:51									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Says someone posting in the 'Poly OTF.

Very true. You get the idea though.

	17-02-2005 22:22									#19
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Zero.

Zip.


Not one.


Never.

	17-02-2005 22:28									#20
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Does swearing at God count as praying?

	17-02-2005 22:48									#21
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Praying is for the supersticious and that time is better spent plotting the down fall of my enemies. BUHWAHHAHHHAHH!

	17-02-2005 22:49									#22
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Praying is for the superstitious and that time is better spent plotting the down fall of my enemies. BUHWAHHAHHHAHH!

	17-02-2005 22:51									#23
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quote: How many times per day do you pray?

That's between me and God, allright?

	17-02-2005 22:57									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Garth Vader Does swearing at God count as praying?

its been said G-d prefers anger to apathy.

	17-02-2005 23:01									#25
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Judge not, lest you be judged. Shame on you JM!

Oops!

	17-02-2005 23:03									#26
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Not belabor the distinctiveness of Judaism, but its interesting to me that frequency of prayer doesnt always correlate with traditional beliefs among Jews, at least among the non-Orthodox - prayer is for us a cultural tradition, laden with music and ritual, and family and group associations. Also of course many approach it as a personal and spiritual time, not a conversation with an old guy with a beard. This can be challenging given the manifest content of many traditional prayers, but weve been reinterpreting texts for thousands of years.


So, JM, how should i respond to the poll - i definitely pray several times a week, but not necessarily most days?

	17-02-2005 23:09									#27
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87.3

	17-02-2005 23:14									#28
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark So, JM, how should i respond to the poll - i definitely pray several times a week, but not necessarily most days?

Divide your weekly prayers by 7

	17-02-2005 23:24									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Divide your weekly prayers by 7

thanks math genius I presume JM put in his text remarks for a reason.

	17-02-2005 23:26									#30
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I try and pray first thing when I get up in the morning, and last thing before I go to bed at night. The key word being try.

Awful as it might sound, there have been many, many nights where after a hearty session partying, prayer is the last thing on my mind when I collapse on to bed. There have also been several mornings where I've slept in, and the top priority is getting my clothes on and bolting out the door for class.

So, optimistically I try to pray twice, but in practice it's probably once a day.