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mart7x5
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Hercules, check your email. you will find some there. at ntlworld...
I did some analysis - there is a lot to do in this turn. Details after the official turn summary.
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Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
Sep 2002
time: 05:22
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Shall I contact Lal
and if he is agreeable will I offer pact? Treaty. we are still some distance from Morgan, who is ahead of us. I think we should head North West to Gagarin Memorial 16 moves away.
I don't think we should move to Morgan base, Choke Point, there will be a defender probe there. Instead maybe try the City of ZZT (a little inland at 20,18)
Whoops I tried to see what tech Lal had and accidently opened comms with him. Thankfully he was friendly and offered treaty, which I accepted.
Last edited by Hercules on 24-02-2005 at 14:49
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mart7x5
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This is my idea for Morganic probe action. If we are completely lucky, we have a chance to do it unnoticed.
In this turn foil enters the fungus tile as marked 2161. Hopefully it will be hidden, and it is outside morganic base radii. Since fungus will be last - third tile, we do not actually loose move point here.
In 2162, it can move 1 tile north, then disembark 1 probe team - north towards City of ZZT. It will cost 1 move point. Probing - 2nd move point. If the city contains probe defender it can use second move point to withdraw to the foil.
We then have chance in the second base: Hindenburg Habitat. Probe disembarks to the forest - 1 move point. Probing - 2nd move point. If also defended by probe defender - goes to foil. Foil then goes 2 tiles west to fungus to hide and search for new opportunities.
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mart7x5
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About the economy,
We gonna have problems in both bases where 5 citizens are now. Both EM and KC have four workers while 1 is drone. I tried the result with:
Econ 30%
Psych 30%
Labs 40%
Then we get +15 EC/turn only and when there is librarian in KC we have 50 labs/turn. however adjusting growth we may have growth in KC and EM due to pop boom. We have to additionally take out worker in EM for that - Recreation commons not done this turn yet. Overall it is maybe not a good idea.
I like the following approach more:
Econ 40%
Psych 10%
Labs 50%
Also:
2 Librarians in EM
1 Librarian in KC
We have then: +23 EC/turn
64 labs/turn, IntInt in 2164.
We do not get any growth next turn, but this may be ok - we worry about it next turn. also we might get Children Creshe in KP, thus we might in 2163 get EM, KC, KP to grow simultaneously.
This is about social engineering then.
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mart7x5
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Here are some other proposals:
- COP from SH to go to new base location. colony pod with escorting scout move along road 1 tile only, 2162 enter the tile, 2163 establish base and COP will arrive the very same turn.
- Guarding rover near HG - the same recoinassance as the last turn. Hive rover might either enter the fungus or forest on north-east. This rover move will reveal it. Hive rover vanished from our foil probe view...
- Foil probe - 4 tiles towards Gaians
- I would move 3 crawlers. First, HG no longer needs nutrients - it can have 2 workers now. thus one crawler goes north to free the river forest for better energy gain. The crawler doing nutrients may go to rocks and bring 1 mineral meanwhile. 2 energy gives nothing, since one of them will get wasted anyway. HG would have too much already - wast would rise this one energy point. I would relocate the crawler from forest near EM. From RPS to EM, and this is extremely important when we gonna have two librarians in EM. Detail in Security Nexus - it is needed for hurrying Command Nexus next turn.
- attack mw - get around 20 EC
- formers - farm, harvest forest near SH, forests, roads, also a road on rocks north from VL, for mine and to yet another new base location.
- New buildings:
SH - COP
KC - COP
RPS - COP
All get COP units next turn! Also when we relocate that crawler from RPS to EM.
- hurry: if RPS relocated to EM and 2 librarians are in EM, so we should have +11 minerals in EM. Then hurry this turn Recreation commons for 2 EC less than full, 36 energy. This way we do not loose that one mineral and get 10 minerals already accumulated in 2162, This is important, so we hurry still for 2EC/1 mineral the Command Nexus next turn for 58 EC, I guess, and in 2163 have already 10 minerals for prototype of 1-3-1 unit.
- hurry KP for 4 EC, then we get children creshe next turn and in 2162 pop boom may happen i n3 bases together.
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mart7x5
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It is really incredible. We have Pact with Lal - as Hercules did it. Map is like 75% or 85% visible now. We have Zakharov and Spartan territory now visible. Interesting thing to viev. Details soon. I will update our secret map too.
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Lal have the following technologies, which we lack:
Superconductor
Nonlinear Math
Polymorphic Software
Synthetic Fossil Fuels
Secrets of the Human Brain
Environmental Economics
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mart7x5
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The transport foil with our probe task force is in place in the fungus, as it was proposed in the post befor.
I hope next turn we get the infiltration. I hope more for City of ZZT, since the monolith may be most probably free of units - hopefully. On that forest to Hindenberg there may be a crawler. Let us see next turn.
And yet another issue - as Hercules pointed, and I checked that too - hive impact rover is in fungus. What to do? Staying there, our rover is exposed to attack. It may disengage to the north, but it will be probably split from the HG base for some time. Impact is though strong and I am afraid it could not survive the attack. How about getting our rover to the base. If Hive rover enters that forest we probe it next turn. He violated our borders for long enough. Iam almost certain it is invasion and war is imminent.
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mart7x5
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And regardin technology trade - I checked and there is nothing we can offer Lal this time. However, he might give as some tech as gift - he is magnanimous. Should I try it? rules actually allow us to check it also.
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mart7x5
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The 2 most desired technologies would be:
Synthetic Fossil Fuels
Environmental Economics
He can also "clog" our datalinks with 4 other. What to do? any ideas? Having a free tech is a good thing. We also might ask him for a loan. It would be smth like 145 EC - he has like 295 EC now. Is it worth it? We might hurry Network node in Gplex and Recycling tanks in HG. We should also get Perimeter defnse in HG ASAP.
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mart7x5
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Geo,
Hercules played a bit different and I had to follow his path - we have Pact before the trade. I have just sent you a midsave, so please check how it looks and I will play accordingly.
Re rover
I would be afraid of the rover to get stuck some place and be vulnerable to attack without possibility of withdrawal or disengagement. We know they are there more or less, so ...
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mart7x5
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yes, to your hotmail account. I will be here in 3 hours, so if it does not work - I will resend or post here
Geo, check these 2:
Loan (probably like 145)
Gift from Lal - hopefully Env Economics
and:
Gift only - he will probably close commlink for some turns then.
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mart7x5
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So Geo, do you support the loan then?
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mart7x5
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quote:
Originally posted by GeoModder
Btw, I reckon Pacted means the same as infiltrated for the Angels' tech gathering abilities? |
I do not know that, but I guess it is ok to be just pacted. I remember that you cannot infiltrate a pacted faction, but I might be wrong.
As for the Morgan infiltration. I would not be surprised to find:
1) a probe defender in ZZT base
2) crawler on that forest in the tile next to Hindenburg Habitat.
Well, frankly speaking, I think we are a bit to late with infiltration of human factions. Flexibility should be our priority after the Industrial Automation. We might get a better chance then. We still have to infiltrate all human factions. That might be not possible in an easy way...
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mart7x5
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And while we are here Geo, would you maybe feel like calling our friend Yang?
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24-02-2005 08:27
I like it
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