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Sep 2002
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Good idea, Hercules. Go for it.

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Turn is in, Mart.

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Hercules is turnplayer, as I recall. I sent a screenie though to him...

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I opened the turn 2162.

First: we are 2 turns from Intel Integ: we missed 1 turn away by 1 lab.

Second: No luck at probing Hinderburg Habitat ( there was a defence probe there so didn't try). Our probe retreated back on board transport.
Third: We see Morgan probe at 18,20 but actual base is probe free. We infiltrate successfully. Our probe returns to Heavens Gate, a veteran. Unbelievable !!

Our other probe returns to our transport and transport moves towards the University. Only to encounter (empty) Morgan transport: us at 17,23 and them at 16,24.

Thankfully we can explain this as us being en route to probe Uni. They will see a probe on board, but hopefully will not realise we have infiltrated them.

Their spy must have been heading down to meet their transport. ( A big bit of luck for us).

More later.

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  Old Post 05-03-2005 07:25
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I had a look at Yang bases and can't see Spartan transport. So I guess it is en route to Gaian territory. Maybe we should advise them to get some defence probe over to their northern bases quickly, if they haven't already done so.

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Meanwhile our foil probe moves towards Gaians:currently located at 40, 58. Some 3/4 turns from Gaians base.

Having successfully infiltrated Morgans, I feel less worried about securing another faction. We now have three: Yang, Morgan and PKs.

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  Old Post 05-03-2005 07:44
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...We infiltrate successfully. Our probe returns to Heavens Gate, a veteran. Unbelievable !!




So all three factions have SFF. So...
Am I right we get Synthetic Fossil Fuels in 2163???

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  Old Post 05-03-2005 07:46
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Meanwhile here's the mid turn save.

What did we want to do with builds, formers and settings.

And of course diplomacy.

Forgot to look at who Morgan has comms links with.

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Sep 2002
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Hercules, using the midsave I will prepare some proposals for building queues.

I cannot load the turn. The same as it was with the 2161 you posted. Send it to:
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Yes I went back to check that and I couldn't download it either. So turn sent to You and Geo atm by email.

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And here:

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Wow, ZZT would have a probe team next turn. They literaly opened a "probe window" for us. We gonna have hard time explaining the other probe team onboard there. It is hading... that ... damn wrong direction.....

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I was so excited I didn't check for SFF. If all three others have it (SFF) now, then we must wait until another infiltrated faction discovers it. Unless there is a turn delay and we get it next turn. Never was able to figure exactly what happens. Needless to say getting SFF would be very useful regarding Yang.

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OK I am going to bed.

Look forward to tomorrows discussions and test diplomacy with the AIs and real diplomacy with Gaians. morgans and Spartans. Plus the build orders. EM starts Command centre.

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Well, taking a closer look into Morganic data - I expected them a bit in better shape. They have a lot of Data Attorney, or something like that - 9 of them, like 3 probe teams, some probe rovers. We gotthrough it anyway - pure luck.

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Lucky, no way, it was meant to be!!

Man, I really didn't thought it would be possible!!

I'll try to get updated for making comments, but I got nightshifts this weekend (just got home).

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Those 3 factions have superconductor as well... And AFAIK pacted means the same as infiltrated. If not, we have to infiltrate the PK's proper then to have all those techs.

Some advice: in case the Gaians have infiltrated us, move the second probe out of Heaven's Gate, and place the probe with his spent movement on 'Hold' to fool them then.

Appearantly Yangs Impact rover had no success going in the fungus next to Heavens Gate, or else it just sits idle there. We can't see it in our sensor range so it must have failed to move.

In case the Morgans challenge us about our transport we could always say that we're sweeping back to get that pod 3 tiles south of it's position. We only just received Morgans' map so we didn't know it existence beforehand.

Btw, should we be the ones telling them about it or just let them discover it?

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not telling them could be seen as avoidance.an agressive in their face lie could do the trick


things lookin good

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Ok, proposal for crawlers and formers, some units.

  • Three crawlers:
    - Near HS from rocks to forest. Orange circles show where workers might be. This will give us 5 mins in HS and 7 in HG. In forest do minerals.
    - The one near KC go as shown to farm and crawl 2 nutrients, this will allow for pop boom this turn
    - between KC and RPS, go 3 tiles, as shown and do 2 minerals there. (Issue the "o" order by selecting on map "activate units here" and from the dialog window choose crawler. although zero move points it will activate and you will be able to give him "o") I know you all probably know this....
  • Formes, nothing new in particular. Mainly continue, or help forest, start forest on min. new road to RPS, Two formers start mine, as shown.
  • We talked about changing new base location - to the nut tile for better growth just right from start.
  • We have 2 COPs in RPS - move one towards hive border?
  • As proposed move one probe team outside HG, and that after action put on Hold
  • What with those hive units? I would not like seeing them suddenly all 3 units next to HG base in 2163.

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Our transport with probe ended its turn next to their transport, so they will know it is there. Doing something headed somewhere.

I like Geo's suggestion re returned probe to Heavens gate.

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I would propose to switch to 30% psych. By this we will get growth in:

EM
KP
KC

by pop boom. This will also put the two bases, which do not have Children Creshe:

RPS
SH

on golden age. Thus in the 2164 they will pop boom too.

Verres loft grows also next turn due to normal growth.
This will maybe slow our research and economy, but having 4 new citizens next turn, we will be able to recover research to normal standing. In 2164 we get Police units anyway...
And population for this turn - no specialist, apart from needed doctor in VL:

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About new build orders. As shown here. One important thing - I tuned production in EM to 17-2= 15 minerals. By this we get ecodamage, but only 6 - we could go lower mayb later or now?
If it is going to be this way - we have to hurry Command Center to only 27 minerals - which is exactly 5 less then needed. It is since we can only get 10 for the next build, thus we do not loose anything here.
Do not put anything in the queue after the command center or any other building or SP - this also gives additional energy.

Sorry if I say obvious things....

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

And for EM setup of workers - it would look like that:

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I tried to chat with Lal and Yang.
Lal politely declined.
Yang ignored us.

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Yeah, with me too... sorry for not mentioning it before, for I checked that already this morning.

And Hercules, it's a simple case of misinformation. That's why we're Angels for after all.

I'm more worried that this new pact between the Gaians and Morgans includes exchanging the position of our units (probes in particular), especially with the Morgans spotting our transport and the Gaians most likely having access to our 'links. If they proposed the same deal to them as they did to us, it's very likely the case.

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Can't Googlieplex better build a Children's Creche? And RPS will grow as well in 3 turns, just when the Command Center will be finished (without hurrying) and a new drone will pop up turn after.

Do you plan to instant build a police scout there just before growth?

on hurrying the productions were indicated. And we sure have enough cash left for if Yang gets ideas.

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Working on the update now. Have moved crawlers and formers as per earlier Mart map.

Can we decide on RPs and Googlieplex. I think Creches in both are a good idea both for pop boom and efficiency.

Views?

Will hurry HS cop for 4

Have changed EM workers to as above.

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As turn player I will try chatting just in case Lal would like to send us Uni comm.

btw look at the map again. we may be better going for inland Uni base at Mendelev college. If we get Uni's comm next turn or thereafter our probe can continue to Spartan base Tegea Harbour or Fort Liberty. I don't think Spartans would expect human probe atm there.?

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Anyone fancy a foil probe from KC ( both as protection and to pop some pods?

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Ok no joy for me with Lal or Yang either.

Awaiting decision on KC Cop or Foil?
RPS and Googlieplex Command Centre or Creche or one of each?

This might effect settings adjustment

However I am inclined to go with 30 econ. 30 psych, 40 labs. This still gets us Intel Integ in 2164

 
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