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Kontiki
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Aug 2001
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The one thing I've always wondered about the plug-in type of hybrids is how much power do they suck up? If it's a huge drain, all your doing is switching fuel in your car for fuel in a power plant. I really have no idea though - for all I know, it may not draw much power at all.
And how are other alternative fuel arrangements, like hydrogen, coming along?
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Kontiki
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Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Asher
It's not that weak though, and I lived in TO all last summer.
I've lived in California, Toronto doesn't get too hot (compared to California). It also doesn't get too cold (compared to Calgary). 
It's only the days it's 36C+ that I think the A/C wasn't adequate, and it was about 25C in the car.
The one time last summer I felt it was too warm with the A/C, I turned off the A/C, rolled down all four windows, opened the sunroof, and cranked the stereo while zipping down the 407 at about 120km/h in rushhour. |
Did you have your Mazda when you lived in California?
It also gets way more humid here than California, which makes a big difference. As I said, last summer was really cool here - the previous years saw lots of days where the humidex pushed comfortably over 40 degrees. I remember at the time we had a Honda Accord and the A/C cut out altogether. Until we got it fixed, it was excrutiating driving in the city.
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DanS
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The one thing I've always wondered about the plug-in type of hybrids is how much power do they suck up? If it's a huge drain, all your doing is switching fuel in your car for fuel in a power plant. |
From an economic perspective, it's about a wash, although I note that the price for grid electricity is normally much more stable than the price for gasoline. YMMV, depending on your location.
From a local environmental perspective, you are further ahead with plug-in hybrid. The environmental problems are not caused locally, but rather are caused someplace else. This in itself is pretty huge, considering that you can move much of the environmental impact to a place for which the impact would be no big deal.
From a global environmental perspective, you might be worse off with plug-in hybrid, since electricity is generated with coal in many places.
For my own part, I look at the substitution of power plant electricity for gasoline as having a large geopolitical impact. It's a matter of diversification of energy sources.
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I can second what Kontiki's saying - normal TO summer's are drippy hot and humid - quite a pain without good A/C.
You have to find the perfect amount of cooling though - too much and you chill the drops of moisture and sweat on you and you can get shivers.
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Lawrence of Arabia
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Apr 2001
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120km/h in rushhour. |
120s not bad. we never do less than 130 down here in socal. we spend all our time between 130 and 145 usually.
EDIT: or zero and 20 hehehe.
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24-02-2005 23:02
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