16-03-2005 15:14									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo i have a pathetic life, you ****ing a-hole? Oh really? How so? I actually have a social life, while you degenerates are on here all day.

how would you know my posting habits unless you were on here all day? pwnd

	16-03-2005 15:42									#182
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I got a PM from Ming, check your PM's boys

	16-03-2005 15:45									#183
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Well that's a pity since my dad is giving me his Colt M1911, as he already has another handgun.

good gun. Is it the A1 model? I'm sure it is. this was a newer model, but still came about like 80 years ago.

	16-03-2005 16:08									#184
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Well that's dubious as well, almost national self delusion. Why do you have all those wimpy sports if that is so? This article from the New England journal of Medicine points out that the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealnd all share similar cultures and violent histories and yet only the USA has the horrific gun toll today because it doesn't control firearms as effectively as the others.

We are more violent across the board. Certainly gun deaths are going to be higher where guns are many times more common, but it is obvious that there is a general violence problem in the U.S. that handily outstrips the violence problems of Canada (see Krazy Horse's stats) in every category except suffocation, most by 2-1.

	16-03-2005 16:17									#185
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you are now - wasn't always so

We still think of Americans as rather soft - that's why they need guns - Dutch courage

	16-03-2005 16:21									#186
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse you are now - wasn't always so We still think of Americans as rather soft - that's why they need guns - Dutch courage

yeah we just aren't tough like crocodile dundee or the crocodile hunter.

	16-03-2005 16:25									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Mordoch The second ammendment has never been upheld in the way the gun rights advocates have interpreted it by the Supreme Court, who really has not said one way or the other on this issue, so your interpretation could be the correct one. It very well may only apply to a well regulated government approaved militia force.

It has also never been upheld in a way even faintly requiring gun owners / bearers to be members of any formal or even informal militia. The closest thing so far (Miller IIRC) basically stated that a law against sawed off shotguns was constitutional because sawed off shotguns were not military weapons. Basically the Supremes have avoided the issue almost completely throughout our history.

Of course since the SC ruling on the execution of minors recently it seems obvious that the constitution now means whatever 5 justices feel it should mean, rather than what the intent of the framers was or what the court has ever said in the past. Instead we'll now look to trends internationally for ideas to spruce up that dreary old constitution, so that the Supremes won't have to pretend that they're Canadian to avoid embarrassment as they summer on the continent.

	16-03-2005 16:29									#188
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse you are now - wasn't always so We still think of Americans as rather soft - that's why they need guns - Dutch courage

I've been in scores of fist fights, but never really found that it took much courage. In fact a lot of times they were enjoyable. I can't say that I ever felt the same way about gunfights.

	17-03-2005 00:32									#189
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I have been in only a few fist fights and I dont think i was exited or anything I was more concerned with not getting my ass kicked. But as for the gunfights, and since its not the wild west of the 1800's Im gonna have to pass on that. Guns need to be regulated a lot more then they are. Not every indvidual should be entitiled beause its in the constitution. The wacko who has freaked out in life needs not to have that gun.
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	17-03-2005 01:47									#190
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident yeah we just aren't tough like crocodile dundee or the crocodile hunter.

er poor examples

Its like your sports, why do they wear all that padding?

My 8 year old is in a rugby carnival today - no padding, just full on body contact and violence. Its freeezing today and the ground will be a mud bowl. Looks like its going to rain. They will play on.

The tackling is spectacular - little kids are fearless. With any luck none of them will lose any teeth or have to go to hospital.

Then we see gridiron and think, what a bunch of girls those Americans are. Helmets for Pete's sake???

Take baseball, if the player gets hit that's bad. In cricket, hurting the player is good. They go for the fingers, toes, groin, ribs, head. Cricketers play on with broken bones. If you can run anymore, they bring on a runner. If you get it you have to take it like a man. Baseball players who get hit throw a hissy fit.

	17-03-2005 01:59									#191
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse er poor examples Its like your sports, why do they wear all that padding? My 8 year old is in a rugby carnival today - no padding, just full on body contact and violence. Its freeezing today and the ground will be a mud bowl. Looks like its going to rain. They will play on. The tackling is spectacular - little kids are fearless. With any luck none of them will have to go to hospital. Then we see gridiron and think, what a bunch of girls those Americans are. Helmets for Pete's sake??? Take baseball, if the player gets hit that's bad. In cricket, hurting the player is good. They go for the fingers, toes, groin, ribs, head. Cricketers play on with broken bones. If you can run anymore, they bring on a runner. If you get it you have to take it like a man. Baseball players who get hit throw a hissy fit.

Oh hell Isnt that a lot extreme. I have to say you hit me in the head with a baseball flying 100 mph id be a bit upset not to mention on the floor a lot unconcious

	17-03-2005 02:06									#192
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yeah, thats my point - then those baseballers all run in and have a fight. What's wrong with hitting someone in the head? Where is their self discipline? Why do they flinch? Why doesn't the batter just take it like a man? Thats what we think when we see that crap on TV.

In cricket they just say "good ball" when the batter is hit in the head and keep going. Carry off the batsman if necessary

	17-03-2005 02:09									#193
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident good gun. Is it the A1 model? I'm sure it is. this was a newer model, but still came about like 80 years ago.

Maybe.. I'll have to check..

It is in great condition too..

	17-03-2005 02:12									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse yeah, thats my point - then those baseballers all run in and have a fight. What's wrong with hitting someone in the head? Where is their self discipline? Why do they flinch? Why doesn't the batter just take it like a man? Thats what we think when we see that crap on TV. In cricket they just say "good ball" when the batter is hit in the head and keep going. Carry off the batsman if necessary

SH** that is harsh, Carring off the guy who just got pinged,Dam good thing my kids dont play cricket Id be in the E.R. often

	17-03-2005 02:26									#195
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Here's Rick McCosker famously batting on with a broken jaw. He got hit in the head by a fast ball, went to hospital and got it wired and came back to bat on and help save the game. He made no complaints. This is the sort of courage we admire.

My point here is not we're tougher than you, but we don't see your society as any more violent than ours.

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	17-03-2005 02:28									#196
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I just don't get cricket.

	17-03-2005 02:31									#197
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Baseballs would be a lot more interesting if you could hurt the batter.

	17-03-2005 02:32									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Baseballs would be a lot more interesting if you could hurt the batter.

	17-03-2005 02:34									#199
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I just don't get cricket.

Its not criclket what I dont get a broken Jaw, wtf how bout a concussion any signs of that there? Id have to say yes playing with a broken jaw. If thats what the players do there then all the power to em. I know if my jaw was broken id be the first laying on the floor saying who the hell am I and why am I doing his.

	17-03-2005 02:42									#200
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse er poor examples Its like your sports, why do they wear all that padding? My 8 year old is in a rugby carnival today - no padding, just full on body contact and violence. Its freeezing today and the ground will be a mud bowl. Looks like its going to rain. They will play on. The tackling is spectacular - little kids are fearless. With any luck none of them will lose any teeth or have to go to hospital. Then we see gridiron and think, what a bunch of girls those Americans are. Helmets for Pete's sake??? Take baseball, if the player gets hit that's bad. In cricket, hurting the player is good. They go for the fingers, toes, groin, ribs, head. Cricketers play on with broken bones. If you can run anymore, they bring on a runner. If you get it you have to take it like a man. Baseball players who get hit throw a hissy fit.

you guys can make fun of american football all you want, but it is a dangerous sport. And americans are just bigger and stronger than the rest of the world . Or maybe that's just african americans . I won't say so because that could be deemed racist by calling them stronger (you'd think that would be a good thing ).

	17-03-2005 02:43									#201
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concussion? Quick son, How many fingers? You're okay, play on

	17-03-2005 03:03									#202
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A bit trigger happy people in this thread as well. Quickly to jump to conclusions.

	17-03-2005 03:23									#203
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No trigger happy from me here dont like guns. The sports abroad mentioned here have freaked me out a bit though. Hell from now on who needs weapons send the criminals to play cricket and things like that

	17-03-2005 04:44									#204
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski No trigger happy from me here dont like guns. The sports abroad mentioned here have freaked me out a bit though. Hell from now on who needs weapons send the criminals to play cricket and things like that

I think i'll go with a colt instead of cricket..

	17-03-2005 08:56									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I own two, but that's besides the point.

I have more than 2 but, my wife has ask me not to list them.

	17-03-2005 08:57									#206
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whipped

	17-03-2005 09:14									#208
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Oh come on Sava, that's a nice gun.

	17-03-2005 14:52									#209
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa A bit trigger happy people in this thread as well. Quickly to jump to conclusions.

Shoot him!

	17-03-2005 16:25									#210
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quote: And besides who needs more then 8?

Girly man.