20-03-2005 23:23									#31
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WHAT?!

The two types of courts in the US are criminal and CIVIL. The federal court system deals in both criminal and civil cases. This does not touch on federal law at all, so its up to the state's civil courts to deal with the issue.

	20-03-2005 23:29									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui WHAT?! The two types of courts in the US are criminal and CIVIL. The federal court system deals in both criminal and civil cases. This does not touch on federal law at all, so its up to the state's civil courts to deal with the issue.

Thats what i meant if the cause has nothing tho do with criminal actions it doesnt go there. I screwed up on that statement sorry.

	20-03-2005 23:31									#33
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Yeah, but since it doesn't go with criminal, it goes to STATE CIVIL courts. And that is where it has been.

	20-03-2005 23:32									#34
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When it comes to the law I admit I know very little to **** about it. accept I have been in jail before and dont want to go back. so ignore my idiotic comments.

	21-03-2005 00:33									#35
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Out of curiosity. How many of you have a will with instructions on what to do in case of vegetative states etc.?

I certainly don't. But that's because I'm immortal.

	21-03-2005 01:23									#36
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I told my parents to pull the plug.

Congress

Republicans

Bush

	21-03-2005 01:31									#37
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I'm really surprised this is getting as much attention as it is, because it probably happens several times a day throughout the US.

	21-03-2005 02:12									#38
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Hmmm, there are days I'm not proud to be a republican, and this is one of them. Totally absurd. We have way more important things to worry about and not wasting time on steriods and this.

	21-03-2005 02:15									#39
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Id answer but I havent pulled my foot out of my mouth yet

	21-03-2005 02:48									#40
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This law is another gross intervention by the Federal Government on State's rights.

My beef is with the Florida State Legislature and the people of Florida for letting this happen to her...

and with The US Congress for once again sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

	21-03-2005 03:23									#41
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Believe this or not this story hit the front page in san antonio top head lines the story is claiming its a right to life issue and a precedent waiting to happen. The family claims that if this woman is left to die, This will set up cases where any person will be able to come in and pull the plug.

	21-03-2005 04:09									#42
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uhhh... she is not a vegetable


she is in the hospital for "falling over"
they found evidence of broken neck bones that had healed years before the incident but she never went to the doctors for them. initially she was given physical therapy and she started to walk and talk, this was after air was mysteriously cut off from her (not a heart attack as some media outlets have reported). Howefver, the husband stopped the therapy. The breathing incident led to a malpractice suit where the husband gets a large settlement if she dies.

The husband had a kid with another women within a year of shiavo being in the hospital, he has had another since, and lives with the woman.

he has turned down offers ranging from 1-10 million from businessmen who want her to remain alive


congress doesnt have to make an antieuthanasia law, they can make a law stating that if anyone in a near vegatative state who can improve through a minimum of six months of physical therapy must be given a reasonable amount of time to recover...

	21-03-2005 04:13									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Believe this or not this story hit the front page in san antonio top head lines the story is claiming its a right to life issue and a precedent waiting to happen. The family claims that if this woman is left to die, This will set up cases where any person will be able to come in and pull the plug.

The family is retarded.

	21-03-2005 04:31									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker The family is retarded.

In a way these folks might have a point Example
Say i am married to tubes, we get seperated i never told him i want to be unplugged if something happened. Our divorce isnt even planned I have been living without him for will say a year. I move on and fall and become what terri shciavo is. does my estranged husband keep the right and authority to pull the plug.

	21-03-2005 04:31									#45
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quote: Originally posted by sprucemoose3311 uhhh... she is not a vegetable she is in the hospital for "falling over" they found evidence of broken neck bones that had healed years before the incident but she never went to the doctors for them. initially she was given physical therapy and she started to walk and talk, this was after air was mysteriously cut off from her (not a heart attack as some media outlets have reported). Howefver, the husband stopped the therapy. The breathing incident led to a malpractice suit where the husband gets a large settlement if she dies. The husband had a kid with another women within a year of shiavo being in the hospital, he has had another since, and lives with the woman. he has turned down offers ranging from 1-10 million from businessmen who want her to remain alive congress doesnt have to make an antieuthanasia law, they can make a law stating that if anyone in a near vegatative state who can improve through a minimum of six months of physical therapy must be given a reasonable amount of time to recover...

what a bunch of crap... do you have any links to support your wild and inaccurate claims?

	21-03-2005 04:40									#46
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	21-03-2005 04:57									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski In a way these folks might have a point Example Say i am married to tubes, we get seperated i never told him i want to be unplugged if something happened. Our divorce isnt even planned I have been living without him for will say a year. I move on and fall and become what terri shciavo is. does my estranged husband keep the right and authority to pull the plug.

That's a qestion of standing. It has nothing to do with what he wants to do.

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski In a way these folks might have a point Example Say i am married to tubes, we get seperated i never told him i want to be unplugged if something happened. Our divorce isnt even planned I have been living without him for will say a year. I move on and fall and become what terri shciavo is. does my estranged husband keep the right and authority to pull the plug.

I'd have to say yes. If you haven't protected yourself even though you know you wouldn't want him to make that decision it's your own fault. If he was still your husband if would be his right if you hadn't taken the choice from him.

I don't care how big a scum bag the husband is. If the wife hasn't legally specified anything else, it's the husband's call.

This whole thing has been sad.

	21-03-2005 05:28									#49
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do your own research, try to verify your own sources, or is that too hard?

	21-03-2005 05:36									#50
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quote: Originally posted by rah I'd have to say yes. If you haven't protected yourself even though you know you wouldn't want him to make that decision it's your own fault. If he was still your husband if would be his right if you hadn't taken the choice from him. I don't care how big a scum bag the husband is. If the wife hasn't legally specified anything else, it's the husband's call. This whole thing has been sad.

Rah thats my whole point. if its ok now then who will stop the next guy from doing it. Thats why i believe the gov got involved.

	21-03-2005 05:43									#51
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quote: Originally posted by rah I don't care how big a scum bag the husband is.

If I hadn't read this twice, I would have been yelling:

"Don't attack the posters!!!!!"



ACK!

	21-03-2005 07:06									#52
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quote: Originally posted by sprucemoose3311 do your own research, try to verify your own sources, or is that too hard?

translation: you are pulling **** out of your ass...

either that or you are reading lies from some pro-life nutjob website

my sources are mainstream news sites, which I provided links to in earlier posts...

I suggest you educate yourself, your information on this subject is severely inaccurate.

It's almost as bad as Tom Delay, who said Terry Schiavo is talking...

	21-03-2005 07:44									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Sava It's almost as bad as Tom Delay, who said Terry Schiavo is talking...

That's just because her mom said that...poor woman. Just goes to show that Congress acted on the emotion of the moment and not on the constitutionality of getting involved in a State's Rights issue.

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quote: Originally posted by PLATO That's just because her mom said that...poor woman. Just goes to show that Congress acted on the emotion of the moment and not on the constitutionality of getting involved in a State's Rights issue.

oh I don't think Congress acted on the "emotion of the moment"... as the GOP memo proves, this was a carefully calculated political move.

	21-03-2005 07:51									#55
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Well...still not legal. And it is like Delay to quote sources that support his views regardless of wheather or not they support reality.

	21-03-2005 07:52									#56
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WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PLATO!??!!?

	21-03-2005 07:53									#57
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I hate to burst your bubble Sava but the leader of the Democrats in the Senate is one of the bigger supporters of this.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I hate to burst your bubble Sava but the leader of the Democrats in the Senate is one of the bigger supporters of this.

So?

The Democrats who are supporting this are scum and are only doing so because they don't want to be seen as the party of "death" and because they want to move farther to the "right".

I don't understand how this is supposed to "burst my bubble".

	21-03-2005 07:57									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Sava WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PLATO!??!!?

STATE'S RIGHTS ISSUE!!

Why are we yelling?

Just to be clear...I think it sucks what they are doing to her and I think it is morally wrong, but the issue is clearly a State issue and has been 5 years in getting to this point. Just because we don't like the answer doesn't mean we change the Constitution.

	21-03-2005 07:58									#60
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO STATE'S RIGHTS ISSUE!! Why are we yelling? Just to be clear...I think it sucks what they are doing to her and I think it is morally wrong, but the issue is clearly a State issue and has been 5 years in getting to this point. Just because we don't like the answer doesn't mean we change the Constitution.

well at least you are consistent...