29-03-2005 00:59									#301
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora So if they dont support your football team in favour of their own or their parents, you want them all deported? Or just the kids?

Kick 'em all out... granny's first .

	29-03-2005 01:35									#302
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I knew it!

Im glad you arent the mayor of my hometown, id get thrown on a train out for being a Tottenham supporter

	29-03-2005 01:36									#303
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Nah. football clubs are completely different.

	29-03-2005 01:50									#304
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Good, 'cause I was joking.

	29-03-2005 01:52									#305
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Every joke is only partly a joke.

	29-03-2005 01:59									#306
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Not my jokes.

	29-03-2005 01:59									#307
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Im glad you arent the mayor of my hometown, id get thrown on a train out for being a Tottenham supporter

You should get thrown out on a train for being a Tottenham supporter no matter what town you are in .

Though, in you defense, I will say I find it amusing how they have so embraced Judaism even though most of the fans and all of the players are not .

	29-03-2005 02:20									#308
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Some of em certainly dont embrace it, although theyre not nazis either, its just old being labeled something youre not. Although i imagine its far worse actually being a Jew listening to some of the songs the other fans sing.

Here's a nice one:

quote: Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz, Hitler's gonna gas 'em again, We can't stop them, The yids from Tottenham, The yids from White Hart Lane Oh Spurs are on there way to Auschwitz (repeat) (sung to tune of "Spurs are on their way to Wembley", by Chas & Dave)

	29-03-2005 02:23									#309
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"West Ham will show them Jews up at Spurs a thing or two!!" - Alf Garnett.

I see the Mexicans booed the US anthem and chanted "Osama, Osama" during the match.

I love football.

	29-03-2005 02:25									#310
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I still approve of singing "Who's that burning on the runway" at Old Trafford. Down with Taggart and the scum.

	29-03-2005 02:26									#311
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quote: Although i imagine its far worse actually being a Jew listening to some of the songs the other fans sing.

I believe that is how the Spurs adopted Jewishness as something of pride. As a way to show those hateful opposing fans (especially Chelsea ones) by adopting that which others considered an insume.

	29-03-2005 02:35									#312
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People who sing racist football songs aren't really racist, they just want to annoy the opposition.

That's what football is about.

	29-03-2005 02:45									#313
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back in the day, when john barnes was playing and everton fans used to chant 'niggerpool, niggerpool, niggerpool', think there may have been some racism behind that...

	29-03-2005 02:47									#314
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Although i imagine its far worse actually being a Jew listening to some of the songs the other fans sing. I believe that is how the Spurs adopted Jewishness as something of pride. As a way to show those hateful opposing fans (especially Chelsea ones) by adopting that which others considered an insume.

Perhaps the Spurs fans in and around Tottenham, but they take it too seriously anyway.

If this were proper serious theyd be shooting and stabbing each other every week, but as Agathon says, between the vicious words theres an understanding there. Besides, theyre all stood together, united in hate when England plays.

	29-03-2005 02:50									#315
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OMG, those are teh evil.

	29-03-2005 03:09									#316
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Yeah, yeah, the words are still racist . Suger-coating won't help!

	29-03-2005 03:09									#317
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switzerland 0 - 0 france

aaahhh in front of 75,000 switzerland stuns france. HAHAHAH

finland 3 - 4 czechs

now that was a helluva game. finland down 2 - 0 at half, come back to make it a game.

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quote: Yeah, yeah, the words are still racist . Suger-coating won't help!

Obviously.

	29-03-2005 03:14									#319
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I'm waiting for someone to say the ape noises at black players are just to annoy the competition and aren't racist .

	29-03-2005 03:21									#320
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This one I never got, actually. How the hell does making ape noises at players with darker skin is racist? I've acually heard ape noises made at players of all ethnicities.

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Because it is basically saying that black players are apes, black stupid primates. Calling a black person an 'ape' is asserting their inferiority as human beings.

	29-03-2005 03:28									#322
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erm, calling any person an ape is asserting their inferiority as human beings. That's the point.

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But it is especially worse for black players... cause apes usually are on the darkish side. Frankly, I think it is one of the worst racial slur you can use against a black person. Only 'nigger' is worse, IMO (at least in the US).

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quote: This one I never got, actually.

	29-03-2005 03:36									#325
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I have no idea how you can't get it. It's like someone saying they never got that yelling Hitler slogans at the Isreali national team would be offensive.

	29-03-2005 03:41									#326
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erm:
Hitler -> killed jews -> who live in Israel
Ape -> family of animals, close relatives of humans.

I guess you could say that this offensive in america to black people, because of black people being second class citizens, and slaves, and therefor being considered only "slightly human", but this kind of history isn't universal.

	29-03-2005 03:42									#327
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They seem to think all black players are from Africa, where they ate bananas and climbed trees all day.

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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora They seem to think all black players are from Africa, where they ate bananas and climbed trees all day.

Bingo. It's asserting that they are savages.

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quote: I guess you could say that this offensive in america to black people, because of black people being second class citizens, and slaves, and therefor being considered only "slightly human", but this kind of history isn't universal.

It is in Europe.

	29-03-2005 03:47									#330
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quote: Bingo. It's asserting that they are savages.

I've seen those noises done to people of decidedly non-african descent.. like people from the indian subcontinent.

It doesn't make any sense.... ( racism seldom does, though )