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rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 17:56

#181

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Sorry, I was having problems posting last night.

TURN 8

code:

                          *******
                         *********
                         ****   ***
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***
                       ***       ***
                      ***        ***
                     ***         ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ****
                    ***           ****
                    ***            ****
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               **** 16
                    ***                **** 15
                  *******               **** 14
                  *******                **** 13
                  *******                 **** 12
                  *******                  **** 11
                  *******                   **** 10
                  *******                    **** 9
                  ********                    **** 8
                  *********                    *1** 7
                  **********                    *x** 6
                  ******* ***                    *S** 5
                  *******  **                     *3** 4
                  *******  ##-speed limit          *S*5 3
                  *******  **     6                 *S7* 2 
                  *******  **                        *S6* 1 
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  **                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ***4****  
      finish line =======  **                  ***
                  *******  **                 ***  
                  *******  **                ***
                  *******  **               *2* 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  ****      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        NW       6     3     11  turb  AL(10M)  
 2.   Kassiopeia           NE       9     3     12  turb  AAMR(3M)L(4M) 
 3.   Sparrowhawk          NW       5     9      9  perf  ML(L+1)(M6)  
 4.   gjramsey              E       8     4     10  turb  (M7)R(M2)BB  
 5.   Tuberski              N       6     5     10  sway  B(B+1)MML(L+1)MMMMM
 6.   Jonny                 N      10     6     11  sway  A(m4)R(m2)L(m2)L   
 7.   Vovan                 N       5     4      9  sway  B(B+1)RLL(5M)

To be nice I have marked squares in sandbag alley that are confirmed clear with an 'x'

Sparrow plows through 4 sandbags reduced to speed 5, there is a sandbag under car 3

Spaced plows through 5 sandbags reduced to speed 5, there is a sandbag under car 1

Jonny catchs a sand bag on his last move, reduced to 10, there is a sandbag under car 6

Tuber gets lucky and hits enough sand bags to stay on the track. hits 3 and is reduced to speed 6 there is a sandbag under car 5

Vovan does the same with a good move but crashes into tuber. loses the toss hits three bags reduced to speed 5

Tuber and Vovan max speed reduced. BUT the both stayed on the track with good driving.

GR may get the advantage seeing the sand but you guys haven't shown him much yet. THERE is a way through without hitting anything, which you may figure out by the last lap.

Kassi hits nothing

but may really take advantage of being behind by an extra turn.

MAN, that turn took a while to calc.

Now accepting orders for turn 9.

Last edited by rah on 30-03-2005 at 23:49

gjramsey

Prince

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Nov 2001
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 19:46

#182

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Did the sand soak up the oil????

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 19:53

#183

Increase the size of your Attachments

Yes.

gjramsey

Prince

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Nov 2001
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 20:18

#184

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orders submitted

Spaced Cowboy

Emperor

Dallas TX
Nov 2001
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 20:34

#185

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shouldn't my speed be 6?

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 21:48

#186

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I calced 5 originally, but i think you're right.

Spaced Cowboy

Emperor

Dallas TX
Nov 2001
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 21:57

#187

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sent

vovan

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Oct 2001
time: 06:36

30-03-2005 22:49

#188

Tired of ads?

So I am on the same spot with car 4?

EDIT: Or is car 4 behind and that 4 in the sand alley = me?

vovan

Emperor

Oct 2001
time: 06:36

30-03-2005 23:29

#189

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Any way, orders sent.

* vovan hopes people will get the hell out of his way.

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

30-03-2005 23:50

#190

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Sorry, my mistake. corrected now. I got confused and put a 4 where it should have been a 7. As I said, it was a tough turn to calc, and tool over an hour.

vovan

Emperor

Oct 2001
time: 06:36

31-03-2005 00:12

#191

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quote:
Originally posted by rah
Sorry, my mistake. corrected now. I got confused and put a 4 where it should have been a 7. As I said, it was a tough turn to calc, and tool over an hour.

It's all good, rah. Thanks for promptly posting the updates.

Tuberski

Emperor

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Feb 2002
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31-03-2005 01:20

#192

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I'm simply going to go up the outside lane and find the sandbags.

ACK!

Kassiopeia

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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001
time: 07:36

31-03-2005 02:00

#193

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rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
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time: 23:36

31-03-2005 09:03

#194

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Waiting on Jonny

Jonny

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Nov 2000
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 12:44

#195

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Since I'm last...

AL(m10)

A.K.A. The "How Many Sandbags Can I Hit In A Single Turn" Method.

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 18:57

#196

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TURN 9

code:

                          *******
                         *********
                         ****   ***
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***
                       ***       ***
                      ***        ***
                     ***         ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ****
                    ***           ****
                    ***            ****
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               **** 16
                    ***                **** 15
                  *******               **** 14
                  *******                **** 13
                  *******                 *1** 12
                  *******                  *S** 11
                  *******                   *S** 10
                  *******                    *S** 9
                  ********                    *3** 8
                  *********                    *S65 7 
                  **********                    *7SS 6
                  ******* ***                    *SxS 5
                  *******  **                     *SSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          *Sx4 3 
                  *******  **     6                 *SS* 2 
                  *******  **                        *SS* 1 
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  **                     ***O*2**   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********  
      finish line =======  **                  ***
                  *******  **                 ***  
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  ****      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        NW       5     3     11  turb  AA(8M)  
 2.   Kassiopeia            N      11     2     12  turb  AA(4M)R(4M)L(L+1)
 3.   Sparrowhawk          NW       4     9      9  perf  A(M6)
 4.   gjramsey              N       7     3     10  turb  AA(M2)L(L+1)(M6) 
 5.   Tuberski             NW       4     5     10  sway  ALMMMMMM
 6.   Jonny                 N       6     6     11  sway  AL(m10)  
 7.   Vovan                 W       5     4      9  sway  SAL(3M)LMR

To be nice I have marked squares in sandbag alley that are confirmed clear with an 'x'

Spaced just plows forward and hits 3 more bags. The space under him is clear
Sparrow only hits two. The space under him is clear.
Tuber hits three and the space under him is sand.
Vovan does a twist and hits two bags. There is NO sand under him.
(warning, when I subtract moves it's from the end of your turn. so be carefull with turns near the near the end of your turn in sand.)
GJ uses the sand brakes and hits three. There is sand under him.
Kassi closes the gap, now lets see what he's learned.

Jonny plows into 4. There is sand under him

Now accepting orders for turn 10.

Last edited by rah on 31-03-2005 at 21:29

vovan

Emperor

Oct 2001
time: 06:36

31-03-2005 19:09

#197

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rah, nitpicks...

There are two 2's.

Row 4 doesn't look right... Seems like the * in the middle shouldn't be there?

I don' think I should be where I am... ? I was on a sandbag in row 2, then did an L to hit the x, then 3Ms, but judging by my position, I did 2Ms and another L? I *think* I should be in row 6 on the S behind car #6, heading NW?

Thanks.

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 19:24

#198

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Thanks for the corrections.
And no, you are where you belong, (i rechecked it three times), When i'm reducing turns I start from the end of your orders and reduced, which is why you last turn was not executed. I've warned a few times about this.
Fortunately it shouldn't cause a hardship here.

Spaced Cowboy

Emperor

Dallas TX
Nov 2001
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 19:29

#199

Remove this text

sent

vovan

Emperor

Oct 2001
time: 06:36

31-03-2005 19:55

#200

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Well, no rah, I understand that you remove the orders from the end. Let me do it step by step to show you what I mean. After the two accelerations I am heading N and have speed 7. My position and orders are:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   **** 6
    **** 5
     **** 4
      **** 3
       **7* 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

Then we do the L, we get clean road, so heading is now NW, and orders look like this:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   **** 6
    **** 5
     **** 4
      **7* 3
       **** 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

Then we do the M and hit a sandbag, so:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   **** 6
    **** 5
     **7* 4
      **** 3
       **** 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

Another M and a clean spot:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   **** 6
    **7* 5
     **** 4
      **** 3
       **** 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

But now, my position indicates you processed an L, whereas an M is coming up, plus a sandbag:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   **7* 6
    **** 5
     **** 4
      **** 3
       **** 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

And then I have one last L left for the clean spot:

code:
**** 9
 **** 8
  **** 7
   *7** 6
    **** 5
     **** 4
      **** 3
       **** 2 
        **** 1 
SALMMMLMR

So, shouldn't I be on row 6 and not 5? Or is there a flaw in my logic that I don't see?

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 21:28

#201

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For all that work, I'll change it. I have overcomplicated it with too many bag, and it taking way to long for me to calc. I calced 2 movement for the sandbag which is why mine differs. I'm going to rethink this.

IT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU GUYS DIDN"T DRIVE INTO THEM

gjramsey

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Nov 2001
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31-03-2005 21:53

#202

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quote:
Originally posted by rah
IT WOULD BE EASIER IF YOU GUYS DIDN"T DRIVE INTO THEM

Like that is possible!!!

sent and hoping my engine does not get clogged up.....

rah

Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason

Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:36

31-03-2005 22:15

#203

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Yeah, I do this crap to myself. Sandtrap alley was where the sway people were supposed to get an advantage to make up for the lack of turns and long straightaways. I guess I didn't think it through carefully enough. Next time I'll just add another sharp turn.

vovan

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31-03-2005 22:22

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Thank you, rah!

Orders sent.

* vovan hopes to be out of the sand alley in another two turns.

Tuberski

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Feb 2002
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31-03-2005 23:19

#205

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quote:
Originally posted by rah
Yeah, I do this crap to myself. Sandtrap alley was where the sway people were supposed to get an advantage to make up for the lack of turns and long straightaways. I guess I didn't think it through carefully enough. Next time I'll just add another sharp turn.

It'll even out on Lap 2and 3 when we know where the sandbags are......

ACK!

Spaced Cowboy

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Nov 2001
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01-04-2005 01:30

#206

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wow, and I was thinking that be a lot of bags. I still like the sprinkling of bags throughout the course with a heavier dose in the alley (multiples in a row mainly)

Kassiopeia

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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001
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01-04-2005 04:56

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Sent.

rah

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01-04-2005 18:40

#208

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Just waiting on jonny

Jonny

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03-04-2005 07:09

#209

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Sorry about that, I thought that I sent before leaving town...

(Just to make sure, I am actually moving NW, unlike the table which says N, right? If that's the case...)
A(m7)

rah

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04-04-2005 03:37

#210

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TURN 10

code:

                          *******
                         *********
                         ****   ***
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***
                       ***       ***
                      ***        ***
                     ***         ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ***
                    ***          ****
                    ***           ****
                    ***            ****
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               *1** 16
                    ***                *S** 15
                  *******               *S** 14
                  *******                *S** 13
                  *******                 *x3* 12 
                  *******                  *S65 11
                  *******                   *SSx 10
                  *******                    7Sx4 9
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xS2S 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6  
                  ******* ***                    *SxS 5
                  *******  **                     *SSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          *SxS 3   
                  *******  **     6                 *SS* 2 
                  *******  **                        *SS* 1 )
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  **                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********  
      finish line =======  **                  ***
                  *******  **                 ***  
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  ****      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        NW       4     3     11  turb  AA(7M)
 2.   Kassiopeia           NW       7     2     12  turb  A(2M)L(9M)
 3.   Sparrowhawk          NW       3     9      8  perf  ARL(M3)
 4.   gjramsey             NW       5     3     10  turb  AAL(M8) 
 5.   Tuberski             NW       3     5     10  sway  AMMMMM
 6.   Jonny                NW       6     6     10  sway  A(m7)  
 7.   Vovan                NW       3     4      9  sway  AMR(4M)

To be nice I have marked squares in sandbag alley that are confirmed clear with an 'x'

Spaced just plows forward and hits 3 more bags. The space under him is clear as he reaches the end of the alley.
Tuber hits two and the space under him is sand.
GJ plows into 4. There is sand under him. (you showed 9 move so you forgot to add the second A, which I did for you)
Sparrow hit's 2 there is sand under him, get's hit by Jonny, wins the toss.
Jonny plows into 2 there is clear under him. Hit's sparrow, loses the toss.
Vovan hits 3 more. there is sand under him.
Kassi hits 5 and there is sand under him

Space with the obvious advantage. All others grouping up.

The clear path through becomes more obvious..

Now accepting orders for turn 11.

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