22-03-2005 06:02									#1
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	22-03-2005 06:05									#2
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Lovely.

	22-03-2005 06:32									#3
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I would like to add one that a security guard was killed. He obviously wasn't of any use.

And this took place on an indian reservation. Not that this should change anything.

	22-03-2005 07:23									#4
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I was going to go into a spiel about gun control, but it appears 1 of the weaons used was his grandfather's police issue handgun. But now the news is saying 3 weapons may have been used. So it is possible one of them was a legally purchased gun.

Personally I think all handguns should be illegal. It's funny we can outlaw sawed off shotguns, but not handguns. I don't get it.

Yes I hear all the time about the black market. But the fact remains that most weapons used in crimes have been legally purchased at one time. While it is true most people who purchase guns don't committ crimes, the problem is when they sell these guns to pawnshops, or just sell them to a neighbor or buddy. The guns eventually find their way into the wrong hands.

	22-03-2005 07:42									#5
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No comment about gun control. Lets leave that out of here.

I express my deepest regrets such a crime has happened.

And that's ironic Diss.. what's that in your avatar? Looks like a guy holding a revolver to me.

	22-03-2005 07:42									#6
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he was a responsible police officer/detective. He would never misuse lethal force.

	22-03-2005 07:45									#7
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quote: No comment about gun control. Lets leave that out of here.

8 people have been shot dead and you think it best we don't talk about gun control?

quote: And that's ironic Diss.. what's that in your avatar? Looks like a guy holding a revolver to me.

Oh God, I watched 5 minutes of Enterprise earlier, that means I'm going to get cancelled by UPN!

	22-03-2005 07:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident he was a responsible police officer/detective. He would never misuse lethal force.

Uh huh.

But still you got PWNed.

There is no reason to ban any guns because that doesn't deter crime. That is only ****ing with our rights to bear arms. No thanks. Sava even agrees with me.. don't you Sava.. you owner of several handguns?

I think we should look at this kid's parents, not at banning guns. People like whaleboy are delusional and do delusional things. Thank goodness these delusional people are not our lawmakers!

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how did I get pwnd? Police officers would still carry handguns even if we did ban handguns. We can't turn the U.S. into some pansy nation like England where the police don't carry guns.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident how did I get pwnd? Police officers would still carry handguns even if we did ban handguns. We can't turn the U.S. into some pansy nation like England where the police don't carry guns.

The citizens deserve a right to carry handguns for self defense. If we ban handguns for citizens we are becoming a pansy nation.

You people scream about gun control.. yet you seem to forget about the black market and how most gun crimes are committed by unregistered guns.

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If you want to defend you home then get a long shotgun.

Handguns are concealable.

Big difference.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker If you want to defend you home then get a long shotgun. Handguns are concealable. Big difference.

I think having a concealed weapon is appropriate.

	22-03-2005 07:55									#13
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appropiate for going into schools to shoot lots of kids and teachers.

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quote: People like whaleboy are delusional and do delusional things. Thank goodness these delusional people are not our lawmakers!

Put guns in the hands of stupid/violent people, disaster is inevitable. Stupid/violent people are more constant than the drone of a helicopter travelling at the speed of light, so the logical step is to ban handguns, for which there is no use anyway.

THE WALLS ARE MELTING MAAAAN!

	22-03-2005 07:57									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Put guns in the hands of stupid/violent people, disaster is inevitable. Stupid/violent people are more constant than the drone of a helicopter travelling at the speed of light, so the logical step is to ban handguns, for which there is no use anyway. THE WALLS ARE MELTING MAAAAN!

Put freedoms in the hands of stupid/arrogant people, disaster is inevitable.

Really? Your logic doesn't add up. I deserve the right to have a handgun when I reach the age (21 here in California). You have no right to take my freedoms away. There is plenty of use. You are just living in your fantasy land.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I think having a concealed weapon is appropriate.

Appropriate for what?

	22-03-2005 07:57									#17
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If this didn't happen on an Indian reservation I would think my science teacher's mother was the teacher that was killed.

	22-03-2005 07:57									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident appropiate for going into schools to shoot lots of kids and teachers.

No... appropriate for defending yourself against *******s out there.

	22-03-2005 07:57									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident appropiate for going into schools to shoot lots of kids and teachers.

	22-03-2005 07:59									#20
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rifles you can make the argument they are used for hunting, you just can't make that argument with handguns.

	22-03-2005 07:59									#21
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Leftists using the deaths of 10 people for political purposes.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...school_shooting

	22-03-2005 07:59									#22
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quote: The citizens deserve a right to carry handguns for self defense. If we ban handguns for citizens we are becoming a pansy nation.

Indeed, without guns we'll all start flirting with members of the same sex. Oh so terrible... oh so shocking. These sodomites will be the death of us all!!

The self defence argument is crap, most attacks are so fast and stunning that people wouldn't have a clue what to do. To use a weapon in self-defence requires training, discipline, balls and timing.

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I'm not a leftist . I voted republican all the way up until last year.

	22-03-2005 08:01									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Indeed, without guns we'll all start flirting with members of the same sex. Oh so terrible... oh so shocking. These sodomites will be the death of us all!! The self defence argument is crap, most attacks are so fast and stunning that people wouldn't have a clue what to do. To use a weapon in self-defence requires training, discipline, balls and timing.

What is with that first paragraph? How could you possibly bring that up to me? How could you do that? You know i'm gay right?

Your argument is crap and always will be crap.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Leftists using the deaths of 10 people for political purposes. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...school_shooting

Bunch of kids dying AGAIN supersedes "political purposes."

Nice copout though.

	22-03-2005 08:02									#26
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Fez, most illegal guns start out as legal guns. I would support banning the sales of handguns in urban areas. I support fingerprinting and gun registration. And I accept banning felons from owning weapons.

If you are just using your guns for pleasure or hunting, you have nothing to worry about. But if you are buying weapons and then filing off the serial numbers and reporting them stolen, then you should go to jail. That's how most illegal gun trade happens.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Bunch of kids dying AGAIN supersedes "political purposes." Nice copout though.

I'm still wondering who hacked your account? I don't use copouts. Only you people do.

	22-03-2005 08:02									#28
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quote: Put freedoms in the hands of stupid/arrogant people, disaster is inevitable. Really? Your logic doesn't add up. I deserve the right to have a handgun when I reach the age (21 here in California). You have no right to take my freedoms away. There is plenty of use. You are just living in your fantasy land.

I think freedom means not being at risk of being shot, because I'd feel far safer if no-one had guns than if everyone had guns.

I'd gladly choose the lives of god knows how many kids that are going to die in the future thanks to guns, over a steel tube and a couple of pieces of lead.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava Fez, most illegal guns start out as legal guns. I would support banning the sales of handguns in urban areas. I support fingerprinting and gun registration. And I accept banning felons from owning weapons.

I don't support banning the sales of handguns in urban areas, however I do support fingerprinting and gun registration. Don't get me wrong, I don't want felons getting guns. But here in LA it is far too late for that.

Get a grip whaleboy, you aren't changing my opinion that I have a right to get the Colt M1911 my dad is giving to me when I turn 21 (transfering ownership).

	22-03-2005 08:04									#30
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quote: What is with that first paragraph? How could you possibly bring that up to me? How could you do that? You know i'm gay right?

I know you're gay, now I also know that you're incapable of sarcasm.