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OzzyKP is offline OzzyKP
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Ozzy Begins Vermont Campaign to Lower the Drinking Age Support Apolyton

Tomorrow, I and several other NYRA activists will travel to Vermont to begin what will be the most intensive, productive, and ambitious youth rights campaign of our short existence. This is a proud and important moment for the youth rights movement. For the next two weeks NYRA activists will be crisscrossing the state of Vermont spreading information to everyone we can find about lowering the drinking age.

The campaign will begin on Tuesday with our press conference at the statehouse. It is my hope we will take the state by storm, and build the grassroots organization necessary to see that this bill gets passed, and the drinking age gets lowered. Even if the bill doesn't pass ultimately, we will build a strong and lasting political force in Vermont that will not go away once the two weeks are over.

Since this is an incredibly important campaign, and since we will be busy every day I intend to keep everyone updated with daily reports from the front lines. I will post updates on my blog: http://www.oneandfour.org/ Hopefully someone can repost them to the regional lists, and on the forums. In fact just repost them wherever you can. Feel free.

Again, if you want to donate money to the campaign, please go here: http://www.youthrights.org/donate.shtml

If you want to arrange to help out phonebanking during the next two weeks please send an e-mail here: hardy a,t vt.youthrights.org

A grand adventure begins tomorrow when four devoted champions of youth rights descend upon the quiet state of Vermont, and over the next two weeks, this invading horde and the existing troupe of passionate Vermonters will begin the greatest campaign NYRA has ever seen. With clipboards, pens, and speeches, this hardy band will duel with the ageist forces that would defend a drinking age law that is the highest in the world and treats even our own military veterans as sub-citizens.

The fight won't be easy, but any fight worth fighting never is. Victory is not assured, but with hardwork and truth on our side, this campaign will be a grand one, and not one easily forgotten. At last it is time for the youth of this nation to join together and speak truth to the ageist powers that be. To join together in opposition to the ageist policies that silence us and control our lives. What better place than here? What better time than now?

It is with much pride that I join my fellow travelers Dave Varney, Alexis Grant, and Rio Samsie in our quest to lower the drinking age in Vermont. Wish me, and all of us, good luck in our travels. And give thanks to Hardy Machia, Ken Boring, Jay Leff, and the rest of NYRA-VT for their hard work planning this out and hosting us. And of course the hard work they will also put in as the two week campaign unfolds.

Again, if you can help in any way, please do. Your help is needed now more than ever. Please donate, please spread the word, please repost these campaign updates on every forum and mailing list you can find. The more people who know what's going on the better. My hope is Vermont will spawn a Montana, and a Missouri and a Nevada, and an Ohio, and everything else, till the demand for change can no longer be ignored.

Alex Koroknay-Palicz
President & Executive Director
National Youth Rights Association
http://www.youthrights.org/

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I would donate, but I disagree with the idea.

ACK!

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Lowered to what?

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Lowered to what?


10 year old is reasonable.

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Tired of ads?

How are you going to have them compensate for the loss of highway funding?

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You stand a better chance of getting drunk by standing in front of the liqour store trying to get people to buy you booze.

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Good luck man.

Don't think it will happen, but it will be a good experience all around

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I wonder, why did you guys choose that particular issue? After all, it could discredit the whole movement. I can already see the headlines: the kids just wanna have fun! I hope I'm wrong.

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Sure, lower the drinking age.

Then raise the driving age. Most European countries don't let kids drive until they are 18. Works for me...

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I wonder, why did you guys choose that particular issue? After all, it could discredit the whole movement. I can already see the headlines: the kids just wanna have fun! I hope I'm wrong.


You have to have credit to be discredited.

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You picked the right state, at least. If any state is going to fall for youth rights jackassery, Vermont is the one...

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You picked the right state, at least. If any state is going to fall for youth rights jackassery, Vermont is the one...

Yeah but US alcohol laws are insane (especially Blue Laws). I really like being able to buy alcohol 24/7 and being able to have a beer or two on a long boring train/bus trip...

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I agree that US liquor laws are stupid, but not because they infringe upon "youth rights"...

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How are you going to have them compensate for the loss of highway funding?


Alcohol tax raised to 100%?

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How are you going to have them compensate for the loss of highway funding?


...and the fact that allowing more people to booze up isn't particularly important given the current political climate the and hundreds of other issues that are dominating people's thoughts...

Nothing against your cause... it just seems like it would be more likely to be succeed when things calm down a bit.

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Nothing against your cause... it just seems like it would be more likely to be succeed when things calm down a bit.
Not unless he can answer the highway funding question in a credible manner.

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It's too bad you're doing it in Vermont, and not New York.

lowering drinking age to 18
Vermont, as in, closer than Montreal
Vermont, as in, what the ****'s in Vermont!?

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Yeah but US alcohol laws are insane (especially Blue Laws). I really like being able to buy alcohol 24/7 and being able to have a beer or two on a long boring train/bus trip...


But we have separation of church and state where no laws establishing religion exist

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public drinking

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Why would you want to take away the primary cause of underage drinking, doing something illegal.

Drinking lost a lot of it's fun after I turned 21.

ACK!

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public drinking

Public drinking in moderation
Having to dodge all the bits of puke on the sidewalk every sunday morning
Seeing people chunder in the subway on a regular basis

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stay away from my state.

actualy I dare you to try to lower the drinking age in my state. I'm certain it can't happen. It conveniently coincides with the gambling age. So there is no way they would lower it.

Az is offline Az
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good luck, Ozzy

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Vomiting kids on the streets

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hey, if you want to insult my teenage years, do it somewhere else, conformist.

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Is the drinking age 21 in all US states or is it higher/lower in some?

And good luck, I reckon Vermont won´t know what hit them

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hey, if you want to insult my teenage years, do it somewhere else, conformist.
You didn't drink as a teen?

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You didn't drink as a teen?


I did, but we never vomited on the streets..


'cept this one time I vomited in the fountain, and those time we vomited in the park

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Clearly you didn't drink enough as a teen, then.

 
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