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Aqualung71 is offline Aqualung71
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Oct 2002
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The Lost Boy has joined the growing alliance against BOH. Go see it all here

I've posted there that we are not interested.

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Did we make any military alliance with the Horde?


We agreed to co-ordinate to take out Euphorica, and that Babylon may be next on the agenda but we are not committed to the latter.

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That's good news. The less ties with the Horde, the better. They'll use something in those complicated treaties of theirs to declare war on us. Is there a lawyer on their team?

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Now that the Babylonians, the Lost Boys, and the Euphoricans have formed an alliance, won't they be attacking us as well? We are at war with the Euphoricans and technically at war with Babylon (are we?).
Hopefully they will be too busy with the Horde to attack us.
Actually, I'm glad to hear of this alliance.

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Yeh, that's why I said we need to be careful....and I'm glad you're glad - that was the point of my earlier post about us being a little devious and not actively discouraging this alliance against the Horde. Hopefully they will do some damage, however small. However, I really don't think they stand much of a chance against the Horde's armies...Lost Boys were crazy to join.

As for the issue of them attacking us since we are already at war with both Euphorica and Babylon, it is always a possibility though unlikely IMHO. Firstly, we are going to attack Euphorica regardless - they will be defending against us and the Horde and will not send units out. Babylon are angry with the Horde and their first priority is to attack them. They have already stated they do not wish to attack us again. As for the Lost Boys, we are on reasonable terms with them and I don't believe they'll come for us. The 3 of them need to coordinate against the Horde if they are to have any kind of chance.

Longer term, once we've disposed of Euphorica, our next target will probably be Lost Boys rather than Babylon since they are closer.....which if you go read the history, is what we were considering anyway before all these wars erupted.

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The Lost boy has almost no army, we are strong versus everybody save the horde, to whom we are average with.

Euphorica first, then LBs. I am tempted to say do both at once

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Quite apart from that, I was leaning towards only sending sasy 9 or 10 Immortals to Euphorica and leaving the rest at home.

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How about destroying the Euphoricans and then helping to kill the Horde?

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i'd rather whack the lost boys, we have more to gain as their land is closer.

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It must have been AM, since LB wouldn't see either that Warrior or the BOH stack.

I suggest we send them a sternly worded official protest.

[EDIT: Just emailed them with my protest....let's see what comes of it]


Not to mention the red movement indicator is plainly visible atop Grog's hitpoints bar.

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I have discovered why Euphorica suck so badly

[23:33] McMeadows: Could you send me the Euro save? brother is offline and Krill might wanna take over
[23:33] Moonbars: already deleted mate
[23:33] Moonbars: sorry
[23:34] McMeadows: also the mail?
[23:34] Moonbars: found it in deleted items, not exited outlook..
[23:34] Moonbars: u lucky
[23:34] McMeadows: ++
[23:34] Moonbars: LMAO
[23:35] McMeadows: Luck is still indebted to me...
[23:35] McMeadows: (reminding 2 battles in C3CDG)
[23:35] Moonbars: hehe
[23:35] Moonbars: those were not unlucky battles
[23:36] McMeadows: considering the odds we could have done better
[23:36] Moonbars: not really. in terms of HP lost on each side, it is very close being right on the odds
[23:37] Moonbars: we just had more units on 1 or 2 hp still alive at the end
[23:37] Moonbars: and killing your spear on the hill was lucky
[23:38] McMeadows: that was the first thing that jumped in my mind
[23:38] McMeadows: myabe I focuss too much on that
[23:39] Moonbars: well what are the odds that a horse will kill a spear on a hill? is it 50%? is it 25%? that's still 1 in ever 2 times, or 1 in 4. those are not bad odds
[23:39] McMeadows: I'll look it up
[23:40] McMeadows: 7.1%
[23:40] Moonbars: how on earth do you figure that
[23:41] McMeadows: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attac...ttachmentid=544
[23:41] Moonbars: no wonder you can't win anything, your stats are gibberish
[23:42] Moonbars: it's 3 to 2 that the spear will win, not counting if the horse retreats
[23:42] Moonbars: 7.1% - hahahahaha
[23:44] McMeadows: you have to take in account thet the odds go for each hitpoint
[23:45] Moonbars: no you dont
[23:45] Moonbars: u have to take into account that "attacker strenth" stays at one for both a chariot and a horseman
[23:45] McMeadows: seems to have a flaw indeed... attack power of the horseman is given as 1
[23:46] Moonbars: hahahaha
[23:46] Moonbars: this is really funny

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That could do it.

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Just checked my version of the combat calculator (much more comprehensive than that one McMeadows pointed you to) - 28% chance of winning, 35% losing and 37% draw.

Last edited by Aqualung71 on 28-07-2005 at 07:03

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aqua, how can there be a draw? is that the retreat?

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Yeh, draw = retreat.

 
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