10-04-2005 03:21									#1
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Well, it's pretty much been proven that the Los Angeles Lakers made the dumbest move in the history of basketball. They let the greatest coach and the greatest player go last year.

Instead, they decided to make a desparate move and woo Kobe Bryant. The man had plenty of troubles off the court and his oncourt prowess is nothing legendary. There are 10 other guards in this league that are just as good, if not better, than Kobe. LaBron James for example, PWNZ Kobe Bryant.

Kobe always wanted the Lakers to be HIS team, he thought he was the true leader and was always jealous of Shaq. But now the anwer is clear.

For the first time in 11 years, the Lakers have failed to make the playoffs.

The Miami Heat, on the other hand, under Shaq's leadership, have the second best record in the league.

I am proud of Shaq.

Kobe needs to take his humble pie and eat it.






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	10-04-2005 03:26									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Well, it's pretty much been proven that the Los Angeles Lakers made the dumbest move in the history of basketball. They let the greatest coach and the greatest player go last year.

I don't know. Sam Bowie for Michael Jordan was pretty ****in' stupid too. Can't fault the Akeem pick, but Sam Bowie???

	10-04-2005 03:31									#3
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Naw, I take that back. You're right. At least with Bowie/Jordan you can argue that you really can't predict the future. But the LA LaKobe's actually did have the benefit of hindsight - the LaKobe's knew that Jackson+Shaq+Kobe+Teamwork=Championship, and probably could have led the once-Lakers to a minimum of five more championships.

I stand corrected. The dismantling of the Lakers into the LaKobe's was the dumbest move in professional basketball, and might even be the worst personnel decision in the history of major American sports.

Ted, telling it like it is:

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	10-04-2005 03:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Most Obvious Stripper: Layla

We call the Clippers dancers, "the Clippers Strippers."

	10-04-2005 03:42									#7
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I tried to pick a favorite HEAT dancer but they are all too pretty.

On the basketball front, I'd like to see Phil Jackson go to Minnesota or Miami, or even Houston. He's been seen at the recent Lakers games so there is alot of speculation.

I think he will be coaching again next season.

	10-04-2005 03:44									#8
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Naw, I take that back. You're right. At least with Bowie/Jordan you can argue that you really can't predict the future. But the LA LaKobe's actually did have the benefit of hindsight - the LaKobe's knew that Jackson+Shaq+Kobe+Teamwork=Championship, and probably could have led the once-Lakers to a minimum of five more championships.

The Lakers would have never won another championship. Simply because your equation didn't work anymore.

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	10-04-2005 03:45									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I tried to pick a favorite HEAT dancer but they are all too pretty. On the basketball front, I'd like to see Phil Jackson go to Minnesota or Miami, or even Houston. He's been seen at the recent Lakers games so there is alot of speculation. I think he will be coaching again next season.

But without a Superstar, his team will suck.

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	10-04-2005 03:48									#10
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If they had made some good trading moves, I think it was possible.

The supporting cast on the Lakers was too thin. Shaq was carrying the entire burden. Kobe had flashes at times but it simply wasn't enough. They needed a third option.

But the other problem (in my opinon) was Kobe, who kept insisting to be the leader of the team.

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I agree, Shaq is the man.

For more proof look how good the Orlando Magic were under him.

	10-04-2005 03:51									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I agree, Shaq is the man. For more proof look how good the Orlando Magic were under him.

Yeah, all those second place finishes...........

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	10-04-2005 03:53									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski The Lakers would have never won another championship. Simply because your equation didn't work anymore. ACK!

It's how they won the first three, though it is true that by the third the "teamwork" aspect was almost dead.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Yeah, all those second place finishes........... ACK!

they made the playoffs and the rest of the team wasn't that good.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski But without a Superstar, his team will suck. ACK!

Yeah, the thing I like about these 3 teams is each of them has a dominant big man plus a perimeter slasher scorer.

Minnesota : Kevin Garnett, Wally Scerzback, Sam Cassel and Latrell

Houston: Yao Ming, Tracey McGrady, plus Bob Sura, and David Wesley

Miami: Shaq, Dwayne Wade, and Eddie Jones

	10-04-2005 03:56									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident they made the playoffs and the rest of the team wasn't that good.

Over half the league made the playoffs back then, big deal.

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	10-04-2005 03:57									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Over half the league made the playoffs back then, big deal. ACK!

they did a little more than just make the plaoffs. My memory is a bit hazy, but I believe they went to the finals twice. They lost, but at least they made it that far.

	10-04-2005 04:00									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident they did a little more than just make the plaoffs. My memory is a bit hazy, but I believe they went to the finals twice. They lost, but at least they made it that far.

Going to the finals and losing isn't a sign of greatness. Utah Jazz ring a bell?

They also went to the Finals the two years that Jordan "retired" the first time.

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	10-04-2005 04:01									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker If they had made some good trading moves, I think it was possible. The supporting cast on the Lakers was too thin. Shaq was carrying the entire burden. Kobe had flashes at times but it simply wasn't enough. They needed a third option. But the other problem (in my opinon) was Kobe, who kept insisting to be the leader of the team.

The second problem is the lack of teamwork that overcame the Lakers in their last two seasons.

I have no idea what Tuberski's going on about, as the Lakers were a team, especially the 2000 & 2001 versions. The lost of that team spirit can largely, mostly be attributed to Kobe Bryant.

I wonder how things would've turned out had Jerry West stayed...

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What's interesting is to see Alonzo Mourning and Shaq on the same team now.

Zo has the biggest heart in basketball:

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Going to the finals and losing isn't a sign of greatness. Utah Jazz ring a bell? They also went to the Finals the two years that Jordan "retired" the first time. ACK!

so? there were other decent teams other than the Bulls.

And the Utah Jazz were a good team.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT The second problem is the lack of teamwork that overcame the Lakers in their last two seasons. I have no idea what Tuberski's going on about, as the Lakers were a team, especially the 2000 & 2001 versions. The lost of that team spirit can largely, mostly be attributed to Kobe Bryant. I wonder how things would've turned out had Jerry West stayed...

What am I going on about?

quote: Lakers were a team, especially the 2000 & 2001 versions.

It had gone to far and wasn't going to work anymore, they would have never won another championship.

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	10-04-2005 04:19									#23
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Alright, Michelle is my favorite:

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I wonder how things would've turned out had Jerry West stayed...

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Just look at Memphis now!

They are likely to make the playoffs under Jerry West.

	10-04-2005 05:02									#26
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They're 43-32 win loss record

They have also had alot of sellouts this season

	10-04-2005 07:45									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Well, it's pretty much been proven that the Los Angeles Lakers made the dumbest move in the history of basketball. They let the greatest coach and the greatest player go last year. Instead, they decided to make a desparate move and woo Kobe Bryant. The man had plenty of troubles off the court and his oncourt prowess is nothing legendary. There are 10 other guards in this league that are just as good, if not better, than Kobe. LaBron James for example, PWNZ Kobe Bryant. Kobe always wanted the Lakers to be HIS team, he thought he was the true leader and was always jealous of Shaq. But now the anwer is clear. For the first time in 11 years, the Lakers have failed to make the playoffs. The Miami Heat, on the other hand, under Shaq's leadership, have the second best record in the league.

Thanks for the reminder. Maybe now you'd like to give me a nice paper cut and rub some lemon juice in it?

	10-04-2005 07:50									#28
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I prefer salt or acid.

	10-04-2005 10:39									#29
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Ted you are from LA, wouldn't you be a Lakers Fan?

	10-04-2005 11:14									#30
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He's the Clippers fan...........



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