12-04-2005 04:32									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident How did you ever get by without one before you had cell phones.

I was younger then. I didn't get a phone for ages while others did, because I didn't like the idea. But before my gap year it wasn't really needed. Now It'd be hard to do without. I could do without them, just not as well.

quote: Originally posted by Dissident It's an insult to answer cell phones on dates and especially during sex.

I agree, which is why my phone is off during sex/dates. However if I was expecting an important call, then I'd make an exception. If my phone's on and rings, not answering is the same as someone saying they want to talk to me in person and ignoring them. I don't see a difference between a phone conversation and a face to face one.

	12-04-2005 04:34									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Do people actually still use their phones to make phone calls? I use mine mainly for text messages and taking photos. Phoning is so quaint.

Why is it quaint? Air time is dirt cheap and text messaging is for little children. Why type things on a stupidly small keyboard when I can just call and be done with it in half the time.

	12-04-2005 04:35									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I wouldn't even respond to a fire/smoke alarm during sex. As I don't know when the next time I'll be able to have sex will be. .

Ahh, that may be the reason I don't mind so much. If I'm having sex, ie. I'm with my girlfriend, the chances are O had sex about an hour or two before and will do again after the phone call. Part of not seeing each other for a while, livjng apart and all, means when we get to spend a weekend or so together, sex stops becoming a big issue...

	12-04-2005 04:44									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue I think we differ fundamentally, as you see being always contactable as a bad thing, and I see it as a necessity - I *hate* being uncontactable, so I try to always make sure I am. Though I managed remarkably well in Salzburg being out of service area

hmm reread what I said before-- I believe my idea was that the requirement or necessity that people be immediately contactable and accessible is what I don't like. I have a blackberry and a cell phone so I can often be reached... But guess what? When I don't want to be bothered I turn them off.

I turn them off in restaurants, in the movies, at a meeting and pretty much every evening as soon as I get home.

If anyone desires being accessible, fine, leave them on, it doesn't bother me that you want to be reachable 24/7. I just enjoy time when I can enjoy what I am doing

	12-04-2005 04:45									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Me too. That's why I don't have a cell phone.

I have one but it has a remarkable thing called an off switch . .. works great

	12-04-2005 04:47									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Why is it quaint? Air time is dirt cheap and text messaging is for little children. Why type things on a stupidly small keyboard when I can just call and be done with it in half the time.

Cause I can type out a text and send it off faster than it takes to call someone, them to answer, ask my question, and get a reply?

And texting, at least over here, is the cheaper option. Everyone texts. Picture messages are becoming increasingly common. Phone calls are an increasingly small portion of the revenue of mobile networks, at least in the UK/Europe.

	12-04-2005 04:49									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Ming No... calls don't mean urgency... and in many cases, what others think is important isn't something I would consider important

There are very few calls that are truly urgent--

and realistically, even the ones that are . . .there is often little you can do that you couldn't do upon getting the message in 10 or 20 or 30 minutes.


I'm just imaging these " connectaholics" bringing their cellphones into a swimming pool or something

	12-04-2005 04:51									#68
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I do bring mine to the swimming pool/gym. I keep it in my locker on silent. My phone isn't generally further than a metre from me normally. Leaving it at home is like leaving the house without shoes on.

	12-04-2005 04:54									#69
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I still maintain that people with cellphones should be shot.

They are a public nuisance.

	12-04-2005 05:01									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon They are a public nuisance.

So are SOME teachers
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	12-04-2005 05:25									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Cause I can type out a text and send it off faster than it takes to call someone, them to answer, ask my question, and get a reply? And texting, at least over here, is the cheaper option. Everyone texts. Picture messages are becoming increasingly common. Phone calls are an increasingly small portion of the revenue of mobile networks, at least in the UK/Europe.

Around here there are so many competiting networks that talk time is dirt cheap. $39.95 get you around 3000 anytime minutes per month a free night and weekend minutes with long distance thrown in free. It's cheaper then a land line. Text messages generally cost extra or if you can get a plan which costs the same gives you half the talk time but unlimited free texting. Mostly children are the only ones who text and adults just pick up the phone.

With voice activited autodial I just don't see how texting would be faster then calling unless you only want to send a one sentence message.

	12-04-2005 05:39									#72
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Don't you also pay to receive phone calls as well? Not sure if that's still the case but that's what I've heard.

In the UK, the big players are Vodafone, O2, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin Mobile and 3. There's no such thing as long distance and our "off-peak" would be the equivalent of your nights and weekends. The big money comes from contracts or add-on services like the 3G rollout that's properly begun.

My contract with O2 gives me 300 offpeak minutes and 500 free text messages a month for £20. Going over that limit its 12p per text. I got my phone free as part of the contract and can upgrade if/when I renew the contract in a year's time.

You've got to remember that I'm a young adult in Europe who's barely known a life without mobile phones (going all the way back to my first one in Canada). I've grown up with texting. It's a deeply ingrained cultural thing now. Everyone I know texts, barely anyone calls. Texting, for us, is just as fast. It's more discreet, allows you time to consider a reply, and lets you store the message for a later date. Things a phone call doesn't.

	12-04-2005 05:43									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Those can wait a week

What if all of the Eventis people were spamming the forum with aardvarks and creating copycat threads? Would you interrupt sex to ban them?

	12-04-2005 05:55									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar What if all of the Eventis people were spamming the forum with aardvarks and creating copycat threads? Would you interrupt sex to ban them?

NO!

I'm not a moron

	12-04-2005 05:56									#75
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Standard rule of thumb is that in terms of mobile take up and, more importantly, the cultural aspect of mobile phones, America is 2-3 years behind Europe/Asia. That's admitted even by the American business execs.

There's a good article here:
http://www.clickz.com/features/insi...cle.php/3371391

Interestingly, a lot of British companies are being hired to run the new phone campaigns in America because we've got such a lead on knowing how texting works on a mass level. Also gives you an idea of how pervasive text marketing/usage is here.

	12-04-2005 06:38									#76
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quote: How many of you guys go on dates where a woman interrupts the date to gab on a phone from an incoming phone call? I wouldn't put up with it, (actually I probably would- because I'm desperate )

Have, and I have put up with it.

If your conversation can't sustain a brief interruption, then it must not be a very good conversation.

	12-04-2005 06:40									#77
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quote: NO! I'm not a moron

Interesting.

An incentive for spammers to get ming laid.

	12-04-2005 06:41									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Ming So are SOME teachers .01/10

I'm a publicly funded private nuisance actually. You have to pay to have your children corrupted by me.

	12-04-2005 06:43									#79
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Here in China, cellphones are used mainly as portable mesaging devices. The cost structure is different, texting is far cheaper. Personally, my use is about 95% text, 5% voice.

You can certainly find people (e.g. suits) who use lots of voice (or in China I should say YELLING ) time, but by far the norm is to use mobiles as portable email.

Can anyone comment on useage in other parts of the globe (India, Arab world, etc)?

	12-04-2005 06:49									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber See -- I hate this idea that we have to be accessible and reachable at every moment . . .

Brother! I thought I was the only cro-magnon who felt this way.

	12-04-2005 07:05									#81
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse You people don't have enough sex if you've never done this.

D'oh. Some of us turn of mobile phones before going at it

	12-04-2005 07:12									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Cause I can type out a text and send it off faster than it takes to call someone, them to answer, ask my question, and get a reply?

I seriously doubt that, unless your question is short and unimportant.

quote: Originally posted by Starchild And texting, at least over here, is the cheaper option. Everyone texts. Picture messages are becoming increasingly common. Phone calls are an increasingly small portion of the revenue of mobile networks, at least in the UK/Europe.

Over here, air time is dirt cheap. My plan is $90 for 700 minutes (300 minutes anywhere, 400 exclusively with other users of the same network), while SMS is $1.5 each. Some plans are even cheaper, but they are PCS IIRC, and has less coverage. Mine is many for important calls and emergencies (like when I get lost hiking ). So a lot of people just yak away with the most trivial of gossip. Some are even worse - they yell

	12-04-2005 07:12									#83
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quote: Originally posted by mindseye Brother! I thought I was the only cro-magnon who felt this way.

Makes 3 of us

	12-04-2005 07:13									#84
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quote: D'oh. Some of us turn of mobile phones before going at it

Some of us **** 4+ times a day and can't be arsed to do so every time. Especially because it's often spontaneous.

	12-04-2005 07:16									#85
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: D'oh. Some of us turn of mobile phones before going at it Some of us **** 4+ times a day and can't be arsed to do so every time. Especially because it's often spontaneous.

It takes a second or two to press a switch

	12-04-2005 14:37									#86
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I've ****ed a girl while she was on the phone with her friend. She came, too. You should have seen her face when she was trying not to scream into the phone.

Classic.

	12-04-2005 14:47									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Over here, air time is dirt cheap. My plan is $90 for 700 minutes (300 minutes anywhere, 400 exclusively with other users of the same network), while SMS is $1.5 each. Some plans are even cheaper, but they are PCS IIRC, and has less coverage. Mine is many for important calls and emergencies (like when I get lost hiking ). So a lot of people just yak away with the most trivial of gossip. Some are even worse - they yell

Ouch, that's not dirt cheap, that's expensive My plan is £15 per month for 500 anytime, any network minutes and 100 free texts. SMS here cost around 10p, and airtime is usuallynquite dear after your free minutes.

Though actually, texting during dates is my personal dislike. If something's said in a text, it's non-urgent and doesn't need to be replied to until afterwards. Though I can understand when the date lasts 3 days.

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I hate cell phones. I'm never getting one. I don't even have a landline right now.

	12-04-2005 14:51									#89
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I've done this. If you're getting it enough, it's pretty much inevitable that a call you need to take comes in while you're otherwise occupied. It has to be a really important call, though...

	12-04-2005 15:13									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I've done this. If you're getting it enough, it's pretty much inevitable that a call you need to take comes in while you're otherwise occupied. It has to be a really important call, though...

....Ok, then I'll take Nebraska plus 4 and just cancel the Colorado bet....