15-04-2005 15:51									#361
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: BUt of course, this is also bullshit because there is nothing wrong with consenting adults making pornography for other consenting adults. I do find the moralizing about porn so pedestrian and provincial. This is what all people who don't really understand what morality is always say. If a dog likes it, do you think it's OK to **** one?

Aggie, please... A dog canīt consent thatīs the difference.

Great post btw GePap, as always

	15-04-2005 15:55									#362
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Why does it matter? I don't understand your fascination with intent. Did she intend to cheat on him? Did she intend to be in a porno? I'm here two resounding "YES" here. In which case telling her mother something her daughter is doing seems to come down to the daughter's own damn fault. Now, if MRT lied, then yes, he would be in the wrong. But since all he's doing is telling the honest-to-God truth about what the daughter did, then there was no wrong doing. If it "ruins her life", then that was one of the consequences she should've been aware of when doing porn...then sleeping with the porn producer. The people whining and crying about how MRT ruined her life are so out of touch that I want to smack each and every one of them back into the real world.

My god, Asher. You are a vindictive little ***** arenīt you? I pity your boyfriend if he ever steps out of line...

	15-04-2005 16:42									#363
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This is what you get for not being constantly at poly, you get to post at page 13.

I think what mrt did was classless (just like her cheating).

BTW, genital HSV1 is 'not rare' but unless its actually been tested and proven to be HSV1 it's much more likely to be HSV2 about 10X IIRC. The practical differences between the two types are small though except that genital HSV1 outbreaks are less common than with HSV2 and resolve quicker.

	15-04-2005 17:40									#364
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither He's no better than a two-bit, skid row whore.

"no better"? He is a 'two-bit, skid row whore'.

	15-04-2005 17:49									#365
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The reasons for this revenge are extremely childish. I'm talking 8 year old childish here. mrt has asked people not to pass judgement on him, but he's played the role of judge, jury, and execution because he believes that she needs to be taught a lesson (or more accurately, her life was too good after the break up and she should suffer).

I'm not sure Dacia is as bad as she is painted, as we all know how people talk about ex's after bad breakups. Cheating is wrong, but it happens. How you respond to it determines what type of person you are. mrt's response does not show that he's a man not to be messed with, but a vendictive little child who will scavange for the cheapest opportunity to gratify his ego.

I don't believe that mrt has learned anything from this. He's shown no remorse for his actions, and his actions just seem to be a continuation of his past behavior. I see no sign of change, other than him claiming that he's learned from this experience.

Asher's always been a little *****. No one should be surprised. But saying that, he's not entirely without merit.

	15-04-2005 18:06									#366
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dashi, thats where youre wrong, i have learned a lot of things. its just it took me being an ******* to do it.

	15-04-2005 18:37									#367
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Then demonstrate it. If you truly believe that your revenge is wrong, you need to apologize to Dacia for it.

	15-04-2005 18:40									#368
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youre right. and as soon as im ready i will. right now im still feeling really good. Im probably going to see her around (seattle is kinda small) and at that time i will apologize.

	15-04-2005 18:42									#369
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how can you still feeling really good and emitting that you are a *******?

(those are actual stars i have no idea what MRT is calling himself so i just copied the stars...)

	15-04-2005 18:52									#370
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its something i dont understand myself.

	15-04-2005 19:18									#371
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I still think the whole story is a crock of ****

	15-04-2005 19:36									#372
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I agree with Agathon *feints*

*dodges*

	15-04-2005 19:43									#373
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quote: Originally posted by spartak I still think the whole story is a crock of ****

Because we all know that porn and STDs don't really exist.

	15-04-2005 20:15									#374
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The beauty of it all is the trust breaking. MRT trusted her to be monogamous,she cheated on him (and gave him an incurable STD!). He then broke her trust in kind by telling her mom about the porn. MRT still got the short end of the stick here. The mom will cool off and chalk it up to making mistakes when you're a kid.

Asher is dead right...let's have a f**king sense of proportion here - she has given him an incurable disease, yet he makes her life a bit more uncomfortable and he is the bastard?! Now get real people, he fought his corner and had to retain some sense of dignity after this sordid affair.

quote: "Mommy! Daniel hit me!" His mom: "Why did he do that?" "Because I kicked him" "well?" "i didn't kick him as hard as he hit me!" Yeah, MRT probably messed her up worse than she messed him up. That still doesn't matter.

For the love of God, it wasn't even Asher who even mentioned about the magnitude, he was replying to someone who had!

quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X Because the first was (probably) done out of insecurity and thoughtlessness (which still doesnīt make it ok btw.) And the other was premeditated and made out of pure malice.

Oh, so that's OK then?

quote: Originally posted by Kidicious He should have used a rubber. Even if he did I don't see how it's her fault. Mrt ought to just take it in stride. All he did was prove how she did the right thing by dumping him.

He was in a relationship of trust, if she was using the pill the barrier contraceptive was unnecessary, but she broke the trust.

As AH said, it's like a drunk driver. She was utterly reckless. And how can you not realise the consequences of sleeping around, it's pretty f**king obvious, especially when she has picked up an STD and transmitted it to her boyfriend who didn't expect to have to use barrier contraception! There has been an incredible breech of trust and recklessness to which his action pales in insignificance.

Consider this people, what if that STD was HIV which it could very likely have been, you never know what she or the porn bloke picked up. And seriously MRT, I'd recommend you get screened for it.

Personally I have never seen so much sanctimonious crap in my existence...

	15-04-2005 20:21									#375
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Now tell him you're a christian.

And what the f**k exactly is that supposed to mean? I've seen far more filth come of your ilk than of anyone so don't moralise with me sunshine...

	15-04-2005 20:23									#376
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X My god, Asher. You are a vindictive little ***** arenīt you? I pity your boyfriend if he ever steps out of line...

Simple, don't step out of line. It is amazing how cause and effect work...you know, if I started fiddling experiments at work because I couldn't be arsed my employment would be terminated immediately. I would be bankrupted pretty quickly, I would be in **** and I'd find it very hard to find another job in the field. And quite rightly so! That is consequence for you...you have to take responsibility for your actions!

	15-04-2005 20:24									#377
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lessons:

1. Never have sex with someone who posts about their sex life on a game related forum.
2. If you MUST break rule number 1, dont do anything you wouldnt want your mom to know about
3. If you MUST break rule 1 AND rule 2, make sure you have an independent source of education financing. Think about it theres a reason MIDDLE CLASS morality was developed by the middle class - those who had enough to care about consequences, and didnt have enough they could laugh off consequences.
4. Seperating sex from emotion is, at a minimum, problematic.
5. Emotional maturity takes time.
6. Youre probably less mature emotionally than you think you are.
7. Your parents love you, even when you dont realize it(a handful of exceptions, of course). If youre doing something that you'd kill to have your parents not know about, you should think long and hard about doing it.

	15-04-2005 20:49									#378
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PH has a lot of pent up anger, doesn't he?

	15-04-2005 20:51									#379
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LoTM are those lessons for me or her?

	15-04-2005 20:54									#380
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison And what the f**k exactly is that supposed to mean?

I think you've proven his point.

	15-04-2005 21:00									#381
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Have you ever made a reply that isn't more than a handful of words long and isn't some glib comment?

	15-04-2005 21:02									#382
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Have you ever made a reply that isn't more than a handful of words long and isn't some glib comment?

Yes. On the first few pages of the thread.

	15-04-2005 21:05									#383
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i feel like a modern day charles bronson

	15-04-2005 21:06									#384
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Charles Bronson wasn't so stupid.

	15-04-2005 21:07									#385
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Charles Bronson would have used a Colt .44

	15-04-2005 21:10									#386
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i drink colt 45 on occasion.

	15-04-2005 21:14									#387
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Simple, don't step out of line. It is amazing how cause and effect work...you know, if I started fiddling experiments at work because I couldn't be arsed my employment would be terminated immediately.

Would your ex-employer phone up your Mum to tell them what you'd done in an attempt to screw up your family life?

No? Crap comparison, isn't it?

	15-04-2005 21:24									#388
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Would your ex-employer phone up your Mum to tell them what you'd done in an attempt to screw up your family life? No? Crap comparison, isn't it?

Not really, it is an illustration of cause and effect. There is a good chance that if you do something underhand, you could get caught out by the reaction...you are applying this effect to a different hypothetical situation, so no, it isn't relevent. A company is not a person so you are not going to get a personal response, but your professional name will be mud...

	15-04-2005 21:28									#389
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Oh dear, what a shame, never mind. At least you've still got your family.

	15-04-2005 21:32									#390
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And don't think that bringing this down to a personal level is going to change the facts...besides, I think you are underestimating the bond between parent and child, it will be resolved in due course in all probability, you of all people will know this...